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Old 03-10-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Westchester County, NY
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Good luck to your friend. Can't speak to HHC facilities specifically, but when my dad was diagnosed at Monte (Bronx), he refused to go for second opinions at MSK and NYP. We went through some horrific experiences at Monte and as a result, I'd never ever ever go there for my own treatment. I had a small stroke in December and waited for someone to come give me a ride to NYU rather than calling an ambulance. NYU is where I have all of my docs and have had multiple surgeries there. Highly recommend. So the Bellevue tip is great.
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Eric Forman's basement
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Could your friend return to his home country, where you said he has assets, and get treated there?
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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No, as the state of medical care there is light years behind the US. Just to give an example, one of his relatives was diagnosed with throat cancer in that country. The doctors, many of whom were trained in the US, prescribed surgery, radiation and chemo and even then, no comfort that his relative would live for long. In the US where the relative eventually got treatment, all the hospital did was a minimally invasive procedure with some medication and he was fine. It's been 9 years since.

Problem with that country is not technology or physician competence. Rather, it's not common there for doctors to share information and case studies with a wider community, or even experts in other disciplines like the physical sciences. It's also not a common practice for treatments to be reviewed by the hospital committee as is done in the US so not a lot of transparency and accountability.

Furthermore in the US, you have doctors who specialize in very specific types of cancers and even specific cancerous situations (ie, cancers that have spread, cancers near certain glands, etc. etc.) for which they have done procedures hundreds of times over. That cumulative knowledge is hard to match elsewhere.
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Old 03-10-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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If Hillary or Bernie wins and we end up with a single payor system, our health care will be as crappy as your friend's home country's system.
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Old 03-10-2016, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Patient is a new immigrant who got his green card last year but missed the Obamacare open enrollment period (uncertain if can get an exception for special enrollment). He got diagnosed with cancer last week. A lawyer advised that Medicaid was not a good option either since patient has assets in the native country. I heard about HHC sliding scale benefits which I think patient would find as an interesting alternative.

However, I am not sure about the quality of HHC hospitals esp. with life-and-death diseases, however he just heard that his cancer is localized (not spread) which is good. Would anyone know how well HHC deals with cancer (surgery, radiation, etc.) and which hospitals can be trusted the most? Elmhurst, Bellevue, etc.?
I think there is a wide range range of quality at HHC hospitals. Personally I would have no problem with Bellevue or Jacobi because of their affiliation with top notch medical schools. Not so sure about places like Elmhurst or Woodhull.
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Old 03-10-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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I remember this article as being really good in terms of explaining what Elmhurst Hospital is all about, but beyond thinking it was a good article, I can't remember much about the content. However, it might be worth taking a look. Every Disease on Earth - The New Yorker
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:09 AM
 
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He should go to a health insurance broker and buy private insurance. The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is not the only game in town. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/26/yo...nges.html?_r=0
Dear Henna:

First of all, thank you for that article, it's useful to help raise awareness, especially for those with an income above $47,080 who won't qualify for subsidies that it's possible to buy coverage outside the exchange. But there is a problem with using this strategy for this gentleman.

The article you posted was published in 2013, and at that time, if you had the money, they would sell you a policy at any point throughout the year. But the following spring, at the close of 2014 Open Enrollment in March, that changed. Now, if someone wants to purchase coverage outside the Open Enrollment periods (which ended this year 1/31/16), the insurance companies won't sell you a policy unless you can prove that you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:37 AM
 
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Only two NYC hospitals rank in the top twenty for best in cancer care; Memorial Sloane-Kettering (#2) and NYP (#20) Best Hospitals for Cancer | Top Hospitals | US News Hospital Rankings


That being said it is obvious New York City residents go to many of the local hospitals from Mount Sinai to Woodhull for cancer treatment.


You and your "friend" are going about this backwards.


Cancer treatment begins with finding a physician who will in turn be affiliated with a hospital and accepts which ever insurance or Medicare/Medicaid.


If your *friend* has no insurance and thus is resulting upon charity care/Medicaid then the options are going to be narrowed. He or she will have to find a physician, clinic, hospital that can or will take him or her on.

Every hospital in the city accepts Medicaid.

It should also be noted that if your friend has no income or a very low income, he is eligible for Medicaid.
It doesn't matter what his assets are
There is no longer an assets criteria for Medicaid in NY (as long as the person is not disabled or elderly)
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Obamacare allows for "Special Enrollment periods" outside the Open Enrollment period.
See if patient qualifies...new green card might qualify?
https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage-...llment-period/




Who diagnosed his cancer?
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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Every hospital in the city accepts Medicaid.

It should also be noted that if your friend has no income or a very low income, he is eligible for Medicaid.
It doesn't matter what his assets are
There is no longer an assets criteria for Medicaid in NY (as long as the person is not disabled or elderly)


No one said anything about MSK or other private NYC hospitals accepting Medicaid; I and others already knew that they did.


What one did say is finding a private physician (in this case a cancer specialist) affiliated with MSK *AND* who accepts Medicaid for his services.
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