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Old 03-31-2018, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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Terrific idea.
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Old 04-01-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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If it's passed the landlords will just increase the rents on the tenants.
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Old 04-01-2018, 08:22 AM
 
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If it's passed the landlords will just increase the rents on the tenants.
Did you read the article? It answered that thought; if the space remains unoccupied the owner will have to pay that increase on his/her own.
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Old 04-01-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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So you pay taxes for gov't services you are just about barely using... and then want to tax people even more for that?

I understand the philosophy behind it, but it seems very black or white.
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Old 04-01-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Did you read the article? It answered that thought; if the space remains unoccupied the owner will have to pay that increase on his/her own.
How will it prevent it from them raising the rents on tenants?
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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So you pay taxes for gov't services you are just about barely using... and then want to tax people even more for that?

I understand the philosophy behind it, but it seems very black or white.
There are many services one is getting that they aren't aware of. Not all services are in your face.
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Old 04-01-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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How will it prevent it from them raising the rents on tenants?
It doesn't. But it does deter them from landholders from holding out for years just to get the highest rent they can get, while allowing their vacancy to hurt the area. It's a good idea.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:53 PM
 
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It doesn't. But it does deter them from landholders from holding out for years just to get the highest rent they can get, while allowing their vacancy to hurt the area. It's a good idea.

Yeah, just like rent control laws were a "good idea", and look where that's gotten NYC.


Retail property market is functioning as it should, and for your and others information rents are actually coming down in many parts of NYC. No, they aren't dirt cheap as you would like, but never the less....


What bleeding heart liberal democrats and others pushing for some sort of commercial rent control laws seem to ignore is that asking rates are *NOT* the sole issue. Rather the vast and quick rise of online retail that has made Amazon.com, Jet.com, and everyone else online a major competitor for nearly all stores regardless of merchandise.


Many simply cannot or will not believe the way a large majority of people shop has changed, and that is fact. You can find nearly everything from A to Z including hoes, drugs and everything else online or via an app today. So what is someone going to sell/offer that can compete with something that out of the box has lower costs because they *don't* have a NYC store front.


If NYC is so eager to reduce retail/commercial rents, then lower their insane tax rates. Commercial properties pay the majority of *ALL* property taxes in NYC, condos/co-ops are next with single family homes are dead last. Also unlike the protected residential/single family homes increases in commercial rents take place at once, and aren't phased in over ten years. As such they become quick and easy low hanging fruit whenever the city finds itself short of money.


This does not even touch the vast and bewildering array of other taxes, licensing fees, inspection fees, fines and so forth that NYC levies on every single type of business/retail property. The city just increased regulation of all commercial laundries and laundromats which likely is going to drive even more to close/move out of the area.
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Old 04-01-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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The property is empty. There is no tenant to pass it on to.

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