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Old 07-08-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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I had a discussion with a pro black academic. He was one of these red black and green back to Africa types while he has a Puerto Rican girlfriend who is very faired skinned. What a hypocrite. Any how we had one on one chat about black history and black academics in America. Mind you I don't have a PhD or masters or what not. Man this guy said white men never got lynched. Are you sure? He said no white men every got lynched. I pulled up new Orleans in 1890s in which a dozen Italian men got lynched. It was just like how I debated with another pro black who said cops don't kill unarmed white people. He said it never happens, then I showed him a video where a white who had his hands up and a cop blew his brains out. The shooting was so gruesome, BLM came for the defense of the white man killed by cops.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc...eans_lynchings
Some of those types are pretty hard to take. You can't have a rational discussion with them.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:27 PM
 
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You're joking right?

NYT has been one of the most liberal progressive rags of journalism for a good decade or more.

Their coverage of Iraq War II was biased (something they later confessed to), and they haven't missed a beat on promoting "equality" and so forth for years.

NYT turned into the "Advocate" years ago in their unending coverage of LGBT issues including gay marriage. Nearly every issue especially the various Sunday NYT sections featured some sort of "inclusion" or whatever coverage of LGBT.

Once SSM was legalized (if only by SCOTUS), NYT has moved onto trans issues; they can't shut up about that subject and it too appears on average in every issue.

To wit: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/b...ansgender.html

Leaving aside LGBT, NYT is pro climate change agenda, pro any progressive/liberal democrat candidate or elected official and or policies/agenda they espouse. NYT had a love fest with Obama, and continue with BdeB. Of course they don't like DT and or have any use for republicans.

The old Grey Lady may have been known as conservative back in the day, but she's far from that now.
Was joking. Actually nyt has been veery progressive for nearly a century at that. However I don't follow the paper that much especially when nyt jumped into the identity politics soup this past year such as Covington Catholic school boys and sidided with jussie smollet which both turned out to be false.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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I had a discussion with a pro black academic. He was one of these red black and green back to Africa types while he has a Puerto Rican girlfriend who is very faired skinned. What a hypocrite. Any how we had one on one chat about black history and black academics in America. Mind you I don't have a PhD or masters or what not. Man this guy said white men never got lynched. Are you sure? He said no white men every got lynched. I pulled up new Orleans in 1890s in which a dozen Italian men got lynched. It was just like how I debated with another pro black who said cops don't kill unarmed white people. He said it never happens, then I showed him a video where a white who had his hands up and a cop blew his brains out. The shooting was so gruesome, BLM came for the defense of the white man killed by cops.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc...eans_lynchings
It's not a matter of white men never getting lynched. The fact however remains that white people were never lynched in mass on a routine basis in the U.S. merely for being white. The history for black Americans is however very different. Black Americans were lynched in mass and entire towns/communities were burned to ground, merely because whites didn't like to see black Americans progressing with thriving self sufficient communities and businesses. This is a very well known part of American history.

Lastly, who a person sleeps with doesn't tell me much about the person's ideological or racial views. Strom Thurmond who was a staunch segregationist raped his black maid and fathered several biracial children. The same is true for countless white American U.S. presidents and other white men in power, who created anti-miscegenation laws to prohibit black men from mixing with white women, while raping black women.

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Old 07-08-2019, 03:29 PM
 
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I just read your link. This is actually the way most lynchings were done in US history and race wasn't the deciding factor. In this case the Italians were lynched for killing an Irish cop and being acquitted at trial. Even back then the judges were sometimes thought to be too liberal and lenient so the mob would wait for the alleged offender to be released and then they'd strike. You'll never see PBS admit it but whites were closer to 50% of lynching victims. It sounds like heresy to speak the truth in this day and age, but there you have it.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:32 PM
 
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You’re bringing up completely unrelated historical incidents to muddy the waters. I absolutely did not say that those victims are not real victims. I said that this is not a rhetorical discussion, so they don’t apply here.

Neither the perps or the victims in this case have any relation or connection to the victims of past racial crimes. It’s deflection, and you know it.

Now again, explain to me why these attackers are not charged with hate crimes. No one is asking you to shed tears. The justice system is not supposed to be emotion-based.
I don't know about the facts of the case; therefore, I can't comment. Perhaps you should contact the DA's office.

But again, I don't condone any form of racial hatred. The same is unfortunately, not true for many commenting about this case. They are only sympathetic because the alleged victims are white and the alleged perpetrators are black. If the situation was reversed, would the same people who are angry, frustrated and upset, have the same energy and express the same vitriol? I seriously doubt it.

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Old 07-08-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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Some of those types are pretty hard to take. You can't have a rational discussion with them.
I agree. I realized in our current state of affairs. It makes no sense to have an argue or back and forth with a white nationalist, a pro black, a radical feminist, a social justice activist, an alt right supporter, maga worshippers and mgtow types. These types of people think what they say is right. I tried to debate a maga guy and he would not let me talk and how he loves trump. Boy it gave me a head ache and I came to realize these types of people are no different than the back to Africa pro black and sjw types. These folks who are angry at one another have more in common than meets the eye. Why all the hate and vitriol? I'm trying to figure that out. Another thing not to argue with these folks is they they come from points if weakness and victimhood. Including maga types too. Such people will call your landlord or your employer to Ihave your life upended. Don't argue with such people. You will regret it.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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Yeah, let's not.

PBS is one of the worst offenders when it comes to grievance porn.
Do you have any reputable references to back any of your arguments?
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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I agree. I realized in our current state of affairs. It makes no sense to have an argue or back and forth with a white nationalist, a pro black, a radical feminist, a social justice activist, an alt right supporter, maga worshippers and mgtow types. These types of people think what they say is right. I tried to debate a maga guy and he would not let me talk and how he loves trump. Boy it gave me a head ache and I came to realize these types of people are no different than the back to Africa pro black and sjw types. These folks who are angry at one another have more in common than meets the eye. Why all the hate and vitriol? I'm trying to figure that out. Another thing not to argue with these folks is they they come from points if weakness and victimhood. Including maga types too. Such people will call your landlord or your employer to Ihave your life upended. Don't argue with such people. You will regret it.
I don't typically engage or argue with people, who make blanket statements and never bring any facts to the debate.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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I just read your link. This is actually the way most lynchings were done in US history and race wasn't the deciding factor. In this case the Italians were lynched for killing an Irish cop and being acquitted at trial. Even back then the judges were sometimes thought to be too liberal and lenient so the mob would wait for the alleged offender to be released and then they'd strike. You'll never see PBS admit it but whites were closer to 50% of lynching victims. It sounds like heresy to speak the truth in this day and age, but there you have it.
Leo frank. A NY born man of Jewish faith was lynched. He was accused of raping a 13 year old girl. Evidence and confessions proved other wise. A mob lynched the man.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Frank

Revisionists history only points blacks were lynched. Thankfully. Good friends at Wikipedia shows other wise. If you want to revision history, a start by controlling the internet. That's what I would do if I was into social justice activism and revisionist history.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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I don't know about the facts of the case; therefore, I can't comment. Perhaps you should contact the DA's office.

But again, I don't condone any form of racial hatred. The same is unfortunately, not true for many commenting about this case. They are only sympathetic because the alleged victims are white and the alleged perpetrators are black. If the situation was reversed, would the same people who are angry, frustrated and upset, have the same energy and express the same vitriol? I seriously doubt it.
It's always best not to be quick to justice without finding facts first. This I agree with. Reps
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