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Straphangers suffered through more than 10,600 canceled subway trips in June due to a shortage of train crews, according to internal MTA records obtained by THE CITY.
New York City Transit hadn’t scrapped that many trips in a month due to a lack of train operators or conductors since the early days of the pandemic, in March 2020, when more than 12,000 runs were eliminated as employee illness rates spiked and ridership plummeted.
Yes, I take the A and I've noticed this. I first noticed this happening around the beginning of this year. Doesn't really affect me that much as I'm able to use the myMTA app to see when the train is coming.
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Straphangers suffered through more than 10,600 canceled subway trips in June due to a shortage of train crews, according to internal MTA records obtained by THE CITY.
New York City Transit hadn’t scrapped that many trips in a month due to a lack of train operators or conductors since the early days of the pandemic, in March 2020, when more than 12,000 runs were eliminated as employee illness rates spiked and ridership plummeted.
At the top of the heap were the A and the No. 1.
So I don't get it, where did all the workers go? They're all union, it's not like they were fired.
So I don't get it, where did all the workers go? They're all union, it's not like they were fired.
Are they refusing to report to work?
Union members can most certainly be laid off. The collective bargaining agreement usually just provides that it has to be done in a particular way, such as in order of seniority, proper notice to the union, etc., and that when the employer re-hires it has to try to re-hire the people it laid off. I'd imagine the MTA let a bunch of people go and is now struggling to re-hire them and/or train replacements.
Union members can most certainly be laid off. The collective bargaining agreement usually just provides that it has to be done in a particular way, such as in order of seniority, proper notice to the union, etc., and that when the employer re-hires it has to try to re-hire the people it laid off. I'd imagine the MTA let a bunch of people go and is now struggling to re-hire them and/or train replacements.
Well if they were laid off that means they're sitting at home collecting bonus unemployment making $18/hr to do nothing, on top of whatever they are doing under the table. So that's not going to change until Cuomo cuts off UI like the red states have already done
Well if they were laid off that means they're sitting at home collecting bonus unemployment making $18/hr to do nothing, on top of whatever they are doing under the table. So that's not going to change until Cuomo cuts off UI like the red states have already done
Wait a minute. The red states have cut them off? Oh...
So I don't get it, where did all the workers go? They're all union, it's not like they were fired.
Are they refusing to report to work?
Retirements, illness, deaths (from covid and other causes) and then a long-running hiring freeze. What do you think would happen with such? I think the only one that might be somewhat questionable is illnesses if they're faking it, but MTA had a proportionally high number of covid deaths so it's probably likely they had a proportionally high number of illnesses with more severe repercussions. It's not generally MTA operators that get overpaid and screw around--it's higher-up muckity mucks.
Retirements, illness, deaths (from covid and other causes) and then a long-running hiring freeze. What do you think would happen with such? I think the only one that might be somewhat questionable is illnesses if they're faking it, but MTA had a proportionally high number of covid deaths so it's probably likely they had a proportionally high number of illnesses with more severe repercussions. It's not generally MTA operators that get overpaid and screw around--it's higher-up muckity mucks.
About 160 deaths out of 55,000 employees? That's a 0.2% rate.
About 160 deaths out of 55,000 employees? That's a 0.2% rate.
Let's trying thinking this through a bit. First of all, deaths from covid are one of several items mentioned along with retirements, illness, deaths (covid or otherwise), and a hiring freeze. Mentioning one item doesn't mean that it's the sole reason if you put it in a sentence with multiple parts to it. When you put multiple items in the sentence for a possible explanation of something, you're not citing a single factor but a number of contributing ones for the staffing shortage NYC subway faces. Think about that for a second.
Additionally, while the number of trips cancelled is at a high, this does not mean that a vast majority of trips were cancelled. It does not require a catastrophic number or proportion of train operators and conductors to be out in order to have thousands of trip cancellations over the course of a month, because the NYC subway is a large system that makes a lot of trips.
Finally, they're citing specifically train operators and conductors as part of the staffing shortage, but no one thinks that anywhere near a majority of MTA's employees are train operators and conductors, right? No one's actually that stupid, right? The number of people within the MTA who are NYC train operators and conductors are more than an order of magnitude smaller than that amount. Now we should then wonder, well, among the 55K employees at the MTA, was there a segment that was perhaps harder hit with the pandemic than others? It's possible the office workers and desk jockeys didn't quite get hit so hard, right? So where would you reasonably find a segment of people among that circle who *would* actually get harder by the pandemic? Would it possibly be the people that are often public-facing and do so for most of their hours of work in enclosed spaces? Well, apparently, yes, that does seem to be the case. Again, though, was anyone citing this as a sole or primary reason? No, that was not the case.
If only the MTA could run trains as easily as you run your mouth, then we'd be set!
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