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Hey every one, I've been reading about past attempts on getting a high speed rail from nyc to albany to buffalo, even though it's probably not going to happen but just saying if it did wouldn't this just create more urban sprawl for new york or any state that made a high speed rail connecting cities?
I'm not sure how this would create more sprawl. Most of the stations are downtown.
Personally I think the train is the most comfortable and easiest way to travel. However, it is also the slowest. To travel to some cities, such as NYC I prefer it above all methods of transport. If they could cut the time down to at least keep up with a car, I could forsee an even bigger bump in ridership. I think now you can go from Rochester to Buffalo for only $10-$15. On a train there is more leg room, it is quiet, you can get up and walk around and there is food & drink.
The problem with the upstate cities is that you need cars in many situations. You can have the high speed rail drop you off downtown, but the public transportation isn't the greatest in any upstate city so you'd be stuck.
The problem with the upstate cities is that you need cars in many situations. You can have the high speed rail drop you off downtown, but the public transportation isn't the greatest in any upstate city so you'd be stuck.
It depends on the city. I believe Syracuse's CENTRO was recently ranked one of the best mid sized city transit systems in the country.
I think it could be a good thing and I don't think that there would be sprawl due to this, if it even happens. I believe there are three options they are looking at in terms of what type of train they would use:Upstate New York may finally get high-speed rail
So, it will be interesting to see what happens. You might have more people working in NYC, but living in Upstate because of this.
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The problem with the upstate cities is that you need cars in many situations. You can have the high speed rail drop you off downtown, but the public transportation isn't the greatest in any upstate city so you'd be stuck.
This problem is everywhere. It would really be nice if there was a rental car kiosk so you can get a car for the day to attend a meeting in the burbs then get back for the train home..
... wouldn't this just create more urban sprawl for new york or any state that made a high speed rail connecting cities?
No. High speed rail lines in Germany cut down the need for massive highway use between cities, preserving the countryside for farms and villages. What it does do is increase density in and around stations, usually decent-sized cities that can handle it, creating vibrant, walkable areas in and around the rail hubs. Old abandoned areas of places like Schenectady, Syracuse and Rochester (maybe Utica and Rome, too?) stand to benefit.
Downthread there's a question about the need for cars. Here's one solution: car-share programs. Basically, you sign up for a service, and have the right for short-term, cheap car rentals (say, an hour at a time) at any venue that has them. Locating car-share services near rail hubs makes a lot of sense. Here are links: CarShare Vermont - CarSharing in Burlington Vermont and Car Sharing, an alternative to car rental and car ownership – Zipcar
It is so obvious we need massive investments with public transportation both between cities and within cities. It is a shame that lobbies of car manufacturers have taken the country as hostage for so long. Driving became the only way of life in this country for such a long time. I have no hopes of a change in any near future despite the economy.
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