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Old 04-23-2021, 10:33 PM
 
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Also, a good way to see where your household is, you can use this calculator: https://www.pewresearch.org/interact...-middle-class/

For the NYC area, the middle class range for a family of 4 goes from $69,508 to $208,523 at the highest end according to the calculator. This means that $139,015 is dead middle class for a family of 4 in the area.

Breaking it down by thirds, $115,846.33 down is in the lower third; from that figure up to $162,184.66 is in the middle third and from that second figure up to $208,523 is in the upper third of middle class.

Keep in mind that the average(not median) household size in the United States is 2.62 according to 2015-2019 US Census information. So, using having a figure closer to the national figure would adjust this range.

So, for instance, this census tract in Westbury would be a good example of one with a substantial black upper middle class: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...039-nassau-ny/
Especially this census block group in that tract: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...p-4-nassau-ny/

Same for Lakeview: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...3-lakeview-ny/

This census block group(Parkway Homes in the Valhalla SD) would be in the upper third of middle class: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...estchester-ny/

Perhaps this census block group in New City(East Ramapo SD) also has a relatively substantial black upper middle class: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...1-rockland-ny/
More areas likely with a substantial amount of those that fit the title: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...135-nassau-ny/ (Baldwin)
Older info: Census Tract 413500 in Nassau County, New York

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...803-nassau-ny/ (Baldwin Harbor)
Older info: Census Tract 413803 in Nassau County, New York

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...098-nassau-ny/ (North Valley Stream)
Census Tract 409800 in Nassau County, New York

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...051-nassau-ny/ (Elmont)
Census Tract 405100 in Nassau County, New York

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...109-nassau-ny/ (South Valley Stream)
Census Tract 410900 in Nassau County, New York

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...594-queens-ny/ (Cambria Heights, Queens)
Census Tract 059400 in Queens County, New York

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...592-queens-ny/ (Cambria Heights, Queens)
Census Tract 059200 in Queens County, New York

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...-682-kings-ny/ (Flatlands, Brooklyn)
Census Tract 068200 in Kings County, New York

I'll stop there, but there are others nearby that would also have a substantial population that would fit the criteria as well.
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Old 04-24-2021, 08:10 PM
 
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Church references...

Queens(Jamaica, one of the largest in the country): https://www.facebook.com/GACNY/
https://www.allencathedral.org/

Bridgehampton: https://www.facebook.com/First-Bapti...7565739288637/
https://www.1stbaptistchurchbh.org/
https://youtube.com/channel/UCmhLJElj8gA2YYCUiAWAsEA

Sloatsburg: https://www.facebook.com/Gatesofpraisechurchny/

Fairview/White Plains(within Greenburgh Central SD): https://www.facebook.com/unionbaptis...65594466785863
https://www.unionbaptistwp.org/

Lakeview/West Hempstead: https://www.facebook.com/thehouseofG...17508284941847
https://beth-elcogic.com/

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Old 04-28-2021, 02:24 PM
 
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Information for the 2 bolded communities that share a zip code(11552)...

Lakeview, which at 79% black(80.9% inc. in combo) is the state's blackest municipality or CDP, has a black poverty rate of 5.3% and a black median household income of $132,574 according to 2019 5 year census data. Those 25 and older with at least a Bachelor's degree is at 30.7%(it is 32.1% for the US in the same time period). School district information: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049551
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000049551
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049551
HS info: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049537
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000049537
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049537

More: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/profi...00000US3641003

West Hempstead(11.3%, 12.8% inc. in combo.), has a black poverty rate of 8.7% and a black median household income of $130,859(which is the highest of any group in the CDP). Those with at least a Bachelor's degree is at 36.8%.
School district info: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049293
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000049293
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049293
HS info: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049297
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000049297
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049297

More: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/profi...00000US3680225

For zip code 11552, which also includes portions of Malverne Park Oaks, Franklin Square and Garden City South, is 22.9% black(24.6% inc. in combo), the black poverty rate is 7.9%, the black median household income is $126,364(only the Asian and 2 or more races figures are higher) and those with at least a Bachelor's degree is 36.1%. It has 24,906 people.

Map: https://www.google.com/maps/place/We...!4d-73.6477342

Source: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/

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Old 04-29-2021, 06:09 PM
 
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A sports reference from Valley Stream that also attended St. Anthony’s HS in South Huntington/Melville for a portion of their HS years:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5MSFmFqKAak&feature=share

Should be drafted this weekend in the NFL Draft.
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Old 04-30-2021, 06:51 AM
 
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^Related to Valley Stream, its black poverty rate according to 2019 5 year Census information is 2.5%, its black median household income is $109,732 and those holding at least a Bachelor's degree(25 and older) is 43.2%(93.6% for those with at least a HS diploma). The village has 37,577 people and 26.9% black(30.2% inc. in combo).

Here is some information about St. Anthony's, which is known in the CHSFL for its Football program: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00930397

https://www.stanthonyshs.org/

Some information about Valley Stream area public schools: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049526

https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049326

https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049261

High School district(4 HS's): https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000049260
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049260


Also, another sports reference that also played for Syracuse, graduated from Archbishop Stepinac in White Plains and comes from Yonkers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlHo2m0ex2o (should also get drafted this weekend in the NFL Draft)

Stepinac is another Catholic HS that has been known for its Football and Basketball programs in recent years. Some information about that school: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00920527

https://www.stepinac.org/

As for Yonkers, its black poverty rate is below the national rate(18.1%), its black median household income is above the national black figure(at $57,645) and its black educational attainment for those with at least a Bachelor's degree is 28.3%(86.1% for those with at least a HS diploma). So, it will have a mix, but actually is above the national black figures in all of those categories(inc. below in terms of poverty). It is the 4th biggest city in NY State with 200,362 people and is 20.9% black(23.4% inc. in combo, 16.6% non Hispanic black alone).

Some Yonkers City SD information(4th biggest SD in the state as well): https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034777

https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034777

https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034777

Some HS's, Saunders: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034731
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034731
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034731

Yonkers Montessori: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034734
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034734
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034734

Yonkers High: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034738
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034738
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034738

Lincoln: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034751
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034751
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034751

Its other 4 high schools, Roosevelt: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034733

Riverside: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034740

Gorton: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000034750

Palisade Prep: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000062316
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Old 05-01-2021, 09:13 PM
 
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Churches references from...

East Hampton: https://youtube.com/channel/UC6yluNUR-67XZKFIuejkF0A
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...668&__tn__=C-R

Brooklyn: https://www.cccinfo.org/watchonline
https://www.cccinfo.org/

Elmont: https://www.facebook.com/ebceny/
https://www.ebceny.org/

Tuckahoe: https://www.facebook.com/ShilohTuckahoe/
https://shiloh-baptist-church.business.site/

Nyack: https://www.facebook.com/PilgrimBCNyack/
https://www.pilgrimbcnyack.org/

Also, Jaguars select Andre Cisco with the 65th overall pick: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.big...h-overall-pick

Syracuse DB Trill Williams signs with the New Orleans Saints: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nun...orleans-saints

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Old 05-07-2021, 12:49 PM
 
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Speaking of the highlighted community in the town of Ramapo in Rockland County, Hillcrest is 48% black(51.5% inc. in combo), its black poverty rate is 1.2% and its black median household income is $145,000 all according to 5 year census information.

A map of the community: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hi...!4d-74.0409743

A block group: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...2-rockland-ny/ (uses black non Hispanic percentage)

A couple of street views in that block group: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1325...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1358...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

It is in the East Ramapo SD, which has had some issues with funding(some believe it is in part due to the quite substantial Hasidic population in the district, which dominates the school board: https://www.lohud.com/story/news/loc...rd/4713380002/) and academic performance hasn't been as high as it should be: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000039112

However, there are some that attend the public schools and do well later on. An example: https://www.ercsd.org/site/default.a...24688&PageID=9

I knew that this former Philadelphia Eagle linebacker graduated from the district's Spring Valley HS: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...J/JoynSe00.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Joyner

As did these former pro football players: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-Kal_Truluck
https://leaderpost.com/sports/footba...dies-at-age-45

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Bogle

A former boxer that graduated from the district's Ramapo HS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Cole

Some may also go to private schools like nearby Albertus Magnus or to those in northern NJ like St. Joseph's of Montvale, Bergen Catholic, Paramus Catholic, etc. With the latter, those familiar with the HS Football scene in that area know that they get their share of players from Rockland County and other nearby parts of NY as well. So, it isn't unusual for Catholic/private schools in that part of NJ to have students that come from NY.

It is similar with some private schools in CT like Trinity Catholic in Stamford(in the past had a couple of state players of the year in Basketball that came from Port Chester NY; Rashamel Jones, played at UConn and Earl Johnson, played at Rutgers and Iona) and this current NBA player that grew up in Elmsford in Westchester County, but went to the Canterbury School in New Milford CT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_Mitchell

So, in general, this may be some an educational option/route that some may go with as well.
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Old 05-07-2021, 03:03 PM
 
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Speaking of the highlighted community in the town of Ramapo in Rockland County, Hillcrest is 48% black(51.5% inc. in combo), its black poverty rate is 1.2% and its black median household income is $145,000 all according to 5 year census information.

A map of the community: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hi...!4d-74.0409743

A block group: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...2-rockland-ny/ (uses black non Hispanic percentage)

A couple of street views in that block group: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1325...6!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1358...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

It is in the East Ramapo SD, which has had some issues with funding(some believe it is in part due to the quite substantial Hasidic population in the district, which dominates the school board: https://www.lohud.com/story/news/loc...rd/4713380002/) and academic performance hasn't been as high as it should be: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000039112

However, there are some that attend the public schools and do well later on. An example: https://www.ercsd.org/site/default.a...24688&PageID=9

I knew that this former Philadelphia Eagle linebacker graduated from the district's Spring Valley HS: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...J/JoynSe00.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Joyner

As did these former pro football players: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-Kal_Truluck
https://leaderpost.com/sports/footba...dies-at-age-45

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Bogle

A former boxer that graduated from the district's Ramapo HS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Cole

Some may also go to private schools like nearby Albertus Magnus or to those in northern NJ like St. Joseph's of Montvale, Bergen Catholic, Paramus Catholic, etc. With the latter, those familiar with the HS Football scene in that area know that they get their share of players from Rockland County and other nearby parts of NY as well. So, it isn't unusual for Catholic/private schools in that part of NJ to have students that come from NY.

It is similar with some private schools in CT like Trinity Catholic in Stamford(in the past had a couple of state players of the year in Basketball that came from Port Chester NY; Rashamel Jones, played at UConn and Earl Johnson, played at Rutgers and Iona) and this current NBA player that grew up in Elmsford in Westchester County, but went to the Canterbury School in New Milford CT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_Mitchell

So, in general, this may be some an educational option/route that some may go with as well.
Another example of the bolded sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondaire_Jones
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Old 05-08-2021, 09:45 PM
 
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Church references from...

Dobbs Ferry: https://www.toprc.org/churchonline
https://www.toprc.org/

Pomona: https://www.facebook.com/bethrapha/
Beth Rapha - Bishop Jacqueline E. McCullough | Welcome

Rockville Centre: https://www.facebook.com/shilohbaptistchurchny/
https://www.sbcrvcny.org/

Bay Shore: https://www.facebook.com/HBCLongIsland/

Bronx(Wakefield): https://www.facebook.com/GreaterAnointing/
https://www.gatchurch.com/

Also, an interesting historical reference from Setauket(could be put in the Native American thread as well): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethel...rical_District

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Old 05-12-2021, 03:22 PM
 
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In terms of the highlighted community, its black median household income is $127,979 and its black poverty rate is 0%, 80.9% of black residents 25 and older have at least a Bachelor's degree and is 7.9%(9.8% inc. in combination).

Some school district information: https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000035594
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000035594
https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000035594

Institutions such as The Children's Village and Mercy College also contribute to the population there. More information: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/in...=2&CS=3E31F38E

https://childrensvillage.org/

It is also known for its very good HS Football program. In fact, both of these guys played QB there: https://athletics.ithaca.edu/sports/...dan-juvan/5130

https://patch.com/new-york/rivertown...oundup-11-7-13
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