Ohio's economic underperformance

[WRnative]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

Ohio's stuck in their rust belt past. The unions drove wages up so high, it made Ohio vulnerable to imported goods. Then, the environmentalists doubled down on making it nearly impossible to manufacure anything in Ohio, and more jobs and commerce left. Ohio's like Michigan, they let unions and their government enablers kill the Goose that laid the golden egg.

This is the Trump/greeder rant. The reality is that many multinationals eagerly moved production offshore in order to supply the U.S. market from markets with more advantageous costs. Major retailers profited from selling lower priced goods. CEOs and large investors made fortunes arbitraging this hollowing out of America, contributing greatly to the growing income disparity in the U.S. and the diminishment of worker skills in the U.S. versus other countries.

This has been facilitated by a total lack of concern about competitiveness when considering U.S. tax and healthcare policies, especially regarding the global value-added tax regime and non-competitive U.S. healthcare costs. See posts 4 and 6.

Even major non-union U.S. employers, such as Nucor Corporation, have complained about the poor U.S. industrial policies.

[HueysBack]

Originally Posted by WRnative

This is the Trump/greeder rant. The reality is that many multinationals eagerly moved production offshore in order to supply the U.S. market from markets with more advantageous costs. Major retailers profited from selling lower priced goods. CEOs and large investors made fortunes arbitraging this hollowing out of America, contributing greatly to the growing income disparity in the U.S. and the diminishment of worker skills in the U.S. versus other countries.

This has been facilitated by a total lack of concern about competitiveness when considering U.S. tax and healthcare policies, especially regarding the global value-added tax regime and non-competitive U.S. healthcare costs. See posts 4 and 6.

Even major non-union U.S. employers, such as Nucor Corporation, have complained about the poor U.S. industrial policies.

Imagine if these newly found "America First" folks would have supported increased taxation for any US company that went overseas for cheap labor, to deincentivize their greed?

[beach43ofus]

Are Ohio's new jobs worth this?

https://www.fractracker.org/2017/02/...thane-cracker/

This is the 1st article in a series of 3 that explains the dangers of Ohio's ethane cracking plants now underway.

Sure, they'll create 1,000 jobs, but at what cost to the environment?

This is NOT the way Ohio should be addressing its economic underperformance.

This is an environmental disaster waiting to happen.

[johnsmith5a]

What a bunch of junk. Typical blue state / liberal bias. They list college degrees as an indicator??? Utter nonsense. There is no mass migration of people from Ohio to California or Colorado. Those states have serious cost of living problems. Any additional income would immediately be wiped out by the high cost of living. You'll end up living in a storage unit if you move to those places. I wouldn't call people living in storage units an indicator of a thriving economy.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by johnsmith5a

What a bunch of junk. Typical blue state / liberal bias. They list college degrees as an indicator??? Utter nonsense. There is no mass migration of people from Ohio to California or Colorado. Those states have serious cost of living problems. Any additional income would immediately be wiped out by the high cost of living. You'll end up living in a storage unit if you move to those places. I wouldn't call people living in storage units an indicator of a thriving economy.

What could possibly go wrong with Ohio's Ethane Cracker plants and pipelines? BOOM!

https://6abc.com/chester-co-da-opens...lines/4929452/

http://www.theintelligencer.net/news...ates-fireball/

Ohio's turning in to an environmental catastrophe. When Ethane goes BOOM, it doesn't care who you voted for...your toast!

The same company that is building Ohio's pipeline is being investigated for wrong doing elsewhere.

Are the jobs and Ethane exports to China that darned important? Stop these Ethane monsters now before its too late. Stop enabling fossil fuel abuses, and stop enabling China...the World's worse polluter.

Ohio doesn't need this risk and negative exposure.