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Old 07-06-2015, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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If you didn't know, Hope Solo, goalkeeper for the US Women's Soccer team, was arrested and charged with assault in a domestic violence incident.

Detailed look at Hope Solo's domestic violence case includes reports of her being belligerent in jail

Like so many Domestic Violence situations, her victim eventually refused to cooperate, and the charges were dismissed, but the prosecutors appealed and will have to argue the case in the coming month.

If your daughter (or son) wanted a Hope Solo jersey, would you let her wear one? If yes, would you let your kid wear a Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, or Ray Lewis Jersey?
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Old 07-06-2015, 03:21 PM
 
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There are so few female role models in sports, that I would absolutely allow one of my kids to wear the jersey of those who excel, even if I had some reservations. And that's all I have when it comes to Hope Solo, some reservations. Women are (unfairly) expected to be ladies all the time. Men, on the other hand, are excused because their testosterone levels mean bigger battles, bigger ticket prices.

Male sport stars are a dime a dozen, so they can be held to a higher standard.
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Old 07-06-2015, 03:57 PM
 
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As of now, it's too soon to tell. This isn't because I have anything against Solo. I also don't believe she's guilty. It's due to what others may think of someone who chooses to wear her jersey.

Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, or Ray Lewis jersey? Absolutely not.
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Old 07-06-2015, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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There are so few female role models in sports, that I would absolutely allow one of my kids to wear the jersey of those who excel, even if I had some reservations. And that's all I have when it comes to Hope Solo, some reservations. Women are (unfairly) expected to be ladies all the time. Men, on the other hand, are excused because their testosterone levels mean bigger battles, bigger ticket prices.

Male sport stars are a dime a dozen, so they can be held to a higher standard.
Wait ... What??

Because female sports stars are so rare, we should accept them without much concern for their character?

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Old 07-06-2015, 04:33 PM
 
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Wait ... What??

Because female sports stars are so rare, we should accept them without much concern for their character?

There is nothing about her character that makes me overly concerned. The court case is a "he said, she said" sort of thing. And, I do think the very best athletes tend towards a level of aggressiveness foreign to many of us, myself included. But she deserves to be celebrated for her soccer skills.
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Old 07-06-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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The article linked does have a very detailed account of the events she is charged for, and it's a bit more than "he said, she said."
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Old 07-06-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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Um, I've been following what is alleged to have happened, and it's pretty convincing. I don't think this is her first time either (but don't quote me)

Would you say the same thing if it was a male athlete in this situation? That it's just he said/she said?

Also, there are many, many athletes, male and female, that don't display aggression beyond what's necessary for their job.
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Old 07-06-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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The article linked does have a very detailed account of the events she is charged for, and it's a bit more than "he said, she said."
At this point, that's all it is. She hasn't been found guilty, nor admitted to anything beyond a family fight.

The USA men's soccer team lost in the first round, and earned $ 8 million dollars for their paltry showing. The women won the cup, and earned $2 million. Women athletes have always had to fight for every penny of funding, and every inch of media coverage. I have to give credit to those who persevere.
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Old 07-06-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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There is nothing about her character that makes me overly concerned. The court case is a "he said, she said" sort of thing. And, I do think the very best athletes tend towards a level of aggressiveness foreign to many of us, myself included. But she deserves to be celebrated for her soccer skills.
Actually it is "she said, she said."
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Old 07-06-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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At this point, that's all it is. She hasn't been found guilty, nor admitted to anything beyond a family fight.

The USA men's soccer team lost in the first round, and earned $ 8 million dollars for their paltry showing. The women won the cup, and earned $2 million. Women athletes have always had to fight for every penny of funding, and every inch of media coverage. I have to give credit to those who persevere.
That's a legal standard. My standard for what my children cannot wear is considerably less than 'beyond a reasonable doubt' - after all, by the standard you put forth, until 2008 O.J. Simpson was 'innocent' (and he still is, legally, of murder). And Bill Cosby is still legally innocent. How about a nice "I Love Bill Cosby!" shirt for someone's daughter? Not mine, thanks. I'm simply tired of the 'no convictions' rationale for not judging someone. Real life is not a court of law.

Frankly, there are plenty of female role models. And, no, I don't consider someone who is good at kicking a ball to be a role model in any real sense of the term. Even a soccer player who's personal life was as pure as the driven snow would still just be a soccer player.

How about Malala Yousafzai? Women who are Senators or Governors? Erin Brockovich? Toni Morrison? Jane Goodall? Those are worthy role models.
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