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Old 03-08-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:18 PM
 
Location: SC
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Section 1601 and 1602, respectively. In addition, Roth IRA contribution limits will be inflation adjusted, per Section 1603.

I think it is a good idea to reduce the number of options for IRA. This should simplify retirement savings, making it easier for people to save. And in addition, contributing after tax is an easier and more accurate way to plan for retirement. This way 1 million saved is 1 million available to spend.

Source: http://waysandmeans.house.gov/upload...nal_022614.pdf
No thank you. I want to continue contributing to my Traditional IRA PRE-Tax and then draw out post-retirement at a much lower rate. Anyone would be a fool to give that up. (Unless, as you say the contribution limit were totally eliminated. I can't see that happening, the G would lose far too much in taxes. You wouldn't need off shore accounts to hide money.)

In Fact, the more I think about it, this sounds more like a ploy to eliminate capital gains taxes so many of the rich will pay no taxes at all.

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Old 03-08-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Saint Johns, FL
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OK really stupid question: when you withdraw from a Roth are you not paying capital gains taxes? And when you withdraw from a 401(k) you are taxed at regular income rates right, which I assume are lower?
You pay NO taxes when you withdraw from a Roth.
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:37 PM
 
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No thank you. I want to continue contributing to my Traditional IRA PRE-Tax and then draw out post-retirement at a much lower rate. Anyone would be a fool to give that up. (Unless, as you say the contribution limit were totally eliminated. I can't see that happening, the G would lose far too much in taxes. You wouldn't need off shore accounts to hide money.)

In Fact, the more I think about it, this sounds more like a ploy to eliminate capital gains taxes so many of the rich will pay no taxes at all.
When did I say the contribution limit would be eliminated?
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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When did I say the contribution limit would be eliminated?
Sorry, misread income limit as contribution limit.

Because of that misunderstanding, I amend my statement:

No thank you. I want to continue contributing to my Traditional IRA PRE-Tax and then draw out post-retirement at a much lower rate. Anyone would be a fool to give that up.

Carry on!

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Old 03-08-2014, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Wish this happened a decade ago. Haven't been able to contribute to my Roth in a while.
But you can roll over to your Roth, so that doesn't mean anything.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:20 PM
 
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Sorry, misread income limit as contribution limit.

Because of that misunderstanding, I amend my statement:

No thank you. I want to continue contributing to my Traditional IRA PRE-Tax and then draw out post-retirement at a much lower rate. Anyone would be a fool to give that up.

Carry on!
Give up what?

Don't you think you'll be wealthy enough at retirement to be in a higher tax bracket then than you are now?
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Old 03-09-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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Give up what?
Give up the opportunity to put away so much money. Through the 401K I can put up to $26K into my IRA (through rollovers) a year. When it is time to draw out, It will be at a retirement rate. If I switched to a Roth, I would be paying tax on all that money NOW at my high income rate.

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Don't you think you'll be wealthy enough at retirement to be in a higher tax bracket then than you are now?
I make well over 12K a month. My cost of living is actually about $2.4K a month, almost all the rest goes into some form of savings or another. So, when it is time to retire I will reduce my monthly cost to about $1,900 a month or less (mostly by getting rid of some of my cars and related cost). I will be in a much lower tax bracket because I will be drawing FAR less than I am currently making a year.
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Old 03-09-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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No one is questioning the oh-so honest GOP about this?

This is about as distasteful of an idea as one can get. Mitt Romney was able to amass over $100 million in his regular IRA.. imagine what these crooks could do with no limits to a tax-free account?
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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Give up the opportunity to put away so much money. Through the 401K I can put up to $26K into my IRA (through rollovers) a year. When it is time to draw out, It will be at a retirement rate. If I switched to a Roth, I would be paying tax on all that money NOW at my high income rate.

I make well over 12K a month. My cost of living is actually about $2.4K a month, almost all the rest goes into some form of savings or another. So, when it is time to retire I will reduce my monthly cost to about $1,900 a month or less (mostly by getting rid of some of my cars and related cost). I will be in a much lower tax bracket because I will be drawing FAR less than I am currently making a year.
Since you're very wealthy, don't you think you'll have so much in retirement savings and other investment accounts that you'll want to withdraw a significant amount each year? To give to your grandchildren, travel, build a city (maybe), or whatever you didn't get a chance to do when younger?
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