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Old 12-13-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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I have a fairly nice wine cellar and a well stocked liquor cabinet. I don't need to go to AA meetings.

My combined credit card limit is $155,000. My cards auto-pay in full every month and I haven't paid interest on consumer debt in many decades. I own two pieces of real estate and any mortgages I've had are paid off. I pay cash for cars. I need Dave Ramsey advice about as much as I need to attend AA meetings.

DR advice says cut up the credit cards.
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Old 12-13-2015, 06:52 PM
 
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DR advice says cut up the credit cards.

And he'd be a moron for suggesting such
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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examples of better than dave ramsey? everyone else is wishy washy. Take Clark Howard-always pay high interest rates first. Assuming debt is manageable interest rate isnt the problem.
Mr Money Mustache or Bogleheads are better. Ramsey is repetitive, wrong on several subjects (investing primarily), and often gives me the impression of a salesman who is more interested in what benefits him (ELPs) than what benefits you.
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:46 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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examples of better than dave ramsey? everyone else is wishy washy. Take Clark Howard-always pay high interest rates first. Assuming debt is manageable interest rate isnt the problem.
How about learning about personal finance so you can make your own prudent decisions, instead of relying on any guru's one-size-fits-all canned advice?
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:47 AM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Having listened to Dave. I doubt you heard right.
You must not have listened to him very much. DR has advised this many times.
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:48 AM
 
Location: New York
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DR helped me get out debt...I will forever be grateful for his preaching.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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DR helped me get out debt...I will forever be grateful for his preaching.
Congratulations! That's quite an accomplishment.
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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DR helped me get out debt...I will forever be grateful for his preaching.
Dave Ramsey is great when it comes to helping people get out of debt. It's the rest of his financial advice which can be not so hot.

Take what you find useful, ignore the rest - just like any other advice.
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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You must not have listened to him very much. DR has advised this many times.
Yeah, but he tends to listen to the callers. If the caller specifically said they don't want any debt either this is what he advises. But he also says he's not against taking standard mortgages and paying them over 15 years and never seems to say much to people who have 30 year fixed rates.

He just says he would pay cash for it, but he also says he who do this because he espouses a no debt lifestyle so for him to take out debt, no matter how reasonable, would be hypocritical.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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examples of better than dave ramsey? everyone else is wishy washy. Take Clark Howard-always pay high interest rates first. Assuming debt is manageable interest rate isnt the problem.
I believe Dave acknowledges that mathematically paying the high interest rate debt first is correct, but he goes on to make the point that human behaviour is more important here - the psychological effects (positive reinforcement of good behaviour) of extinguishing sources of debt outweighs the mathematical benefit of extinguishing the highest interest rate first.
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