[cremebrulee]

Malloy Signs Bill Boosting Standards for Care of Animals at CT Pet Shops - Government - Milford, CT Patch

Connecticut Governor Signs Anti-Puppy Mill Legislation : The Humane Society of the United States

Ok, the headlines out today, say, Gov. Malloy, signs bills that targets Puppy Mills.

Here are the laws/and honestly, if any one finds anything different, please correct me!

• Prohibit pet shop licensees from purchasing dogs or cats from breeders who have violated USDA animal welfare regulations and increases the fine for violating related requirements

OK, who is going to regulate this? Who is going to go to every pet shop and regulate that they are purchasing dogs for a humane breeder????????? This is just like the law in PA they made, that states, you have to clean the snow off of the top of your car, otherwise, you'll get a fine, why, b/c the snow flys off while driving and hits the cars behind them? Who regulates this law. And are there requirements?

• Require pet shops to reimburse customers for veterinarian expenses incurred to treat a dog or cat that becomes ill shortly after purchase from the shop. The reimbursement is capped at the greater of $500 or the purchase price of the animal.

This is good, however, it's caped at $500.00?????? Am I wrong in understanding this? What protects the dog/puppy here? The pet store owner should have to pay the buyer in full...and what is the time line on this? Who decides, if the dog becomes sick a year later, will that cover the problem if it's proved to have stemmed from inhumane breeding and how do you prove it?

• Instruct pet shops to post the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) inspection reports for breeders of any dog offered for sale.
Yeah right, like this is going to help the thousands of dogs in PUPPY MILLS that either die or are taken out back and shot b/c they cannot produce any longer. What about those dogs in puppy mills that are living a life of agony in these over crowed cages??????????

I don't believe this, I'm very sorry and very angry...that the people of this country do not do something about this....

If you have cancer you cut it out, you don't put a bandaide over it?????

This doesn't nearly attack or go after puppy mill owners, this is simply a quick fix on the parties part to do a little something to make other people think they are doing something for these poor critters. They are not!!!!! I wish everyone of these people would be made to go to a puppy mill and stand there and look at these poor forlorned critters that are made to live like this?

What is wrong with this country, how stupid have we become....and everyone is clapping at this, as though this is a remody?

I'm sorry, honestly sorry and if I'm wrong please correct me.

[Tuck's Dad]

This is an honest question: how is a "puppy mill" defined? and by who?

I think there are horrendus people breeding dogs in locked cages heat cycle after heat cycle - evreybody agrees this type of operation should be shut down, but how about somebody who breeds say 100 dogs for 400-600 pupies a year in a large scale kennelled operation? Is a puppy mill defined by volume or conditions based. If I breed 3 pets/dogs all in the same year would that qualify as a puppy mill?

the term "puppy mill" is sort of like the old definition of pornography: I can't tell you exactly what it is, but I know when I see it!

While it's harder, I think this stuff needs to be handled under cruelty laws on a case by case basis. I think we are both in agreement that people that intentionally mistreat animals in breeding operations should be shut down, and if warranted do some prison time, but I am concerned with the question of who defines and who enforces those laws, because I see great potential for mischief with some fringe type animal activists getting involved the ledgislative process.

[cremebrulee]

Originally Posted by Tuck's Dad

This is an honest question: how is a "puppy mill" defined? and by who?

I think there are horrendus people breeding dogs in locked cages heat cycle after heat cycle - evreybody agrees this type of operation should be shut down, but how about somebody who breeds say 100 dogs for 400-600 pupies a year in a large scale kennelled operation? Is a puppy mill defined by volume or conditions based. If I breed 3 pets/dogs all in the same year would that qualify as a puppy mill?

the term "puppy mill" is sort of like the old definition of pornography: I can't tell you exactly what it is, but I know when I see it!

While it's harder, I think this stuff needs to be handled under cruelty laws on a case by case basis. I think we are both in agreement that people that intentionally mistreat animals in breeding operations should be shut down, and if warranted do some prison time, but I am concerned with the question of who defines and who enforces those laws, because I see great potential for mischief with some fringe type animal activists getting involved the ledgislative process.

Oh I agree, however, way to many dogs are suffering...suffering and dying slow, unthinkable deaths, due to these puppy mills...

If your a legatimate dog breeder, and someone comes in to inspect you, then I'd say you better have proof of vacinations, clean kennels and dogs that are not sick....

Yanno, I totally understand where your coming from but even restaurants do not have the surprise inspections they used to have....years ago, when I was young I was in the food business...and inspections were not only constant, but surprise visits....that is what I mean when I always say our systems in the U.S. are broken, they create all these laws, however, who enforces them?

but yes, that is a good point.

I knew several breeders, my aunt was one, and those dogs were left outside to play, those kennels were exactly that, kennels, and they were bleached down every single day.....years ago, people wouldn't have put up with cruelty to animals to such a magnitude as is today.....something would have been done....why is it taking law makers so long to even begin to see this?

As for your establishment, if you keep a clean kennel where your dogs are taken well care of, shots, vets, free of disease and nails clipped reguarly, and clean, I don't believe you have anything to worry about.

However, this is envy and jealousy & greed in every phase of the system today so I do understand your concerns. I know of rescue opperations that are boarder line money hungry....that do better by the dogs, but not much.

Yanno, they tell you, don't purchase a dog from a pet store, b/c those dogs are from puppy mills and you don't know what you are getting...however, a whole lot of their dogs are rescued from puppy mills, and they cage them, don't know a thing about the dog, and make up things. I tell you true, in this day and age, if your going to adopt a dog from a rescue, make certain that dog has been fostered for several months, so you know what your getting.

While rescues are doing good by those dogs, there are some rescues that also sell them only to make a profit...some of them are arrogant, and lie....believe me I know.

[catsmom21]

Originally Posted by Tuck's Dad

This is an honest question: how is a "puppy mill" defined? and by who?

I think there are horrendus people breeding dogs in locked cages heat cycle after heat cycle - evreybody agrees this type of operation should be shut down, but how about somebody who breeds say 100 dogs for 400-600 pupies a year in a large scale kennelled operation? Is a puppy mill defined by volume or conditions based. If I breed 3 pets/dogs all in the same year would that qualify as a puppy mill?

the term "puppy mill" is sort of like the old definition of pornography: I can't tell you exactly what it is, but I know when I see it!

While it's harder, I think this stuff needs to be handled under cruelty laws on a case by case basis. I think we are both in agreement that people that intentionally mistreat animals in breeding operations should be shut down, and if warranted do some prison time, but I am concerned with the question of who defines and who enforces those laws, because I see great potential for mischief with some fringe type animal activists getting involved the ledgislative process.

More likely you would be a backyard breeder, not a puppy mill. Both should be eliminated. The world doesn't need your pet dog's puppies, nor does it need these horrible puppy mill puppies.

Find the video of the woman throwing a bucket of live puppies into an icy river, one by one. There are already too many unwanted puppies.

"legitimate" breeders, breeders of true established breeds, "for the betterment" of the breed (NOT to create grossly exaggerated versions) should breed only for what they have buyers for. Meaning the puppies should be sold, before they are bred. All should be papered and registered. If they aren't, they should not be. And no one else should be breeding, at all.