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Old 12-23-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: PA
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Everyone lies, cheats and steals in smaller fractions of their life. :-)
Some just go big and bold. Others know the lies, and cheating and stealing they do has less damage to their lives and maybe less impact to society.

Humans in the end do what they need to survive, without rules, judges and or society they will do what is needed as a animal, but you can reason with a human, find common ground to a solution without the lie, cheating and stealing. Murder etc. It can be done but in the end either human will do one or the other when given the options.
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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Everybody has their own moral compass. Mine is pretty good, and there are certain things that are wrong for me, and other things aren't so bad.

Someone else might judge me for my bad deeds, but they are not that bad. I feel a responsibility to 'do the right thing'.

Sometimes doing the right thing, might involve an immoral act by another person's standards.

For instance, if my children were hungry and the cupboards were bare, I would do what I had to do to feed them and shelter them. If I had to rob a bank, I would. The bank isn't moral, by my standards.

I wouldn't want to go to jail, because that would not be the best outcome for my family. Morally, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Morally, I would want to provide for my family through hard work, but if that wasn't possible for some reason then I would find a way. If that way wasn't 'moral' by the general standards of society, then so be it.

I met someone recently who was a down and outer. He was a big shoplifter. I could tell because he had nothing, but new stuff. If he was poor and honest, he wouldn't have expensive gadgets. He did a good deed for me for no personal gain, so I helped him out a little. He tried to give me his stolen stuff, and I didn't want anything to do with it. I would rather buy my own stuff, then get that kind of deal.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:14 AM
 
Location: encino, CA
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If you could steal, lie, cheat, murder, etc without getting caught and also not feel any remorse while doing it or in the future looking back on what you did, would you live a life without morals and doing whatever benefited without thinking if its good or bad?
Based on my early family conditioning YES - but, after being in therapy and support groups, I have learned about honor, respect for the law, common sense morality and consistent dignity & honesty so, no I would not do what I was conditioned to do by my family - I would do what is Right and Moral.

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...but what stop me from stealing if i would never get caught and i didn't feel bad about it?
Absolutely nothing and we got such immoral conditioning when children and did a lot of very BAD things until I finally went for help and entered therapy. My brother went to state prison! We both were unfortunate victims of bad parenting.
We are both OK now!
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Old 12-30-2016, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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morals are a cultural construct used as a simple heuristic for stupid people to use. honestly I'd feel more guilty if I never knew when it was appropriate and correct to be "immoral".
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:58 AM
 
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We are all sinners you can go burying yourself in the worldly tumult, but under all that noise is concealed a falling from grace. In the propagation of temptation there is only desolation, whether it be the accumulation of wealth, the stripping of power, the worship of idols, being subservient to a king whom takes precedence over GOD, having your body tarnished by surreptitious lust from the woeful prostitute`s embrace, by the withholding the goods of your fellow man, when you claim the personal deficiency of another as the grounds for public outcry, relying upon false pretenses as to persuade a veil of favor over your true intentions, and imparting rhetoric which consents destruction unto our civil sovereignty. These are some examples of immorality, now with good and evil it seems subjective at first but it can be understood as an axiom by which anything good will inevitably make peace whereas anything evil will cause dissension, this is applicable to both yourself and the others in the vicinity of the all. From this we can say that indeed despite not having any regrets of ones immorality it still remains a discordant phenomenon affecting other people and or the individual`s spirit. As what is in the ether cannot be undone, as it were an existential scarring.
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Old 01-01-2017, 12:36 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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Not feeling "guilty nor have any regrets being immoral" would make me one of two things - a sociopath or a robot. Pure cost-benefit analysis in the strictly quantifiable sense is for computers.
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