Maricopa Couple Missing, Please keep an eye out

[PoppySead]

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

I'm sorry. Some people you can never really know, no matter how long you know them.

It just strikes me that there must have been others who knew them better than you, who probably did have an inkling and did/said nothing, possibly because it's "uncool" to call anyone out on their recreational drug use.

I keep thinking that as well. I find it hard to believe nobody close to them knew. I'm not sure how to approach that though. To be honest, I'd just rather skip it and do what I can for their kids. I just hope it blows over quickly and they don't get a bunch of bad comments. I can't imagine doing this to your family although like I said, I can't imagine doing drugs either. I'm sure someone around them was aware though. I agree. Unfortunately it's a little late now.

[jdahunt]

As I stated when this first came out....random acts of violence are very rare....that is why the police always look at family members first and close connections second usually involving drugs or other crimes.

As far as meth being in their system.....I can't think of one good reason injuries or not why anyone would allow that to happen.....just looking for a cheap high regardless of consequences...sad...very sad for the children.

[stevek64]

Originally Posted by PoppySead

It's bizarre to think about as from what I've heard nobody knew.

Some people are very good at covering up what they are doing. Beyond this specific circumstance, how many times do we hear when someone is finally caught/discovered they are a serial psycho killer, go on a killing rampage, imprisons someone in their house for years, etc. and neighbors and family who knew them say they are shocked to learn they'd do such a thing, they were the nicest person, etc. For myself, nothing surprises me anymore.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

I'm sorry. Some people you can never really know, no matter how long you know them.

It just strikes me that there must have been others who knew them better than you, who probably did have an inkling and did/said nothing, possibly because it's "uncool" to call anyone out on their recreational drug use.

Not necessarily, many people whether it be alcohol, drugs, gambling are very good at hiding the problem.

Especially if it isn't a long term issue.

And to look at the two of them from recent photos it doesn't look like they were too far along into this habit. When you see people with bad skin, teeth falling out, and they now weigh 30 pounds less than they used to and they weren't trying to lose weight, than you're blind not to notice.

This wasn't the case in this situation.

Originally Posted by PoppySead

I keep thinking that as well. I find it hard to believe nobody close to them knew. I'm not sure how to approach that though. To be honest, I'd just rather skip it and do what I can for their kids. I just hope it blows over quickly and they don't get a bunch of bad comments. I can't imagine doing this to your family although like I said, I can't imagine doing drugs either. I'm sure someone around them was aware though. I agree. Unfortunately it's a little late now.

PoppySead, you sound like a very nice caring person. Don't dwell on that, honestly I would say probably no one knew at this point, now had it continued and worsened and this incident didn't happen, than yes more than likely someone would have picked up on it.

You're smart, concentrate on those kids, they're going to need people like you.

[PoppySead]

Originally Posted by jdahunt

As I stated when this first came out....random acts of violence are very rare....that is why the police always look at family members first and close connections second usually involving drugs or other crimes.

As far as meth being in their system.....I can't think of one good reason injuries or not why anyone would allow that to happen.....just looking for a cheap high regardless of consequences...sad...very sad for the children.

It does explain a lot. I agree, not an excuse at all. At least this brings closure. We know now why someone would murder them. The children are the ones who will suffer indeed. I'm sure they are getting an ear full since the toxicology reports have come out. I hope it goes by quickly for them and they can get on with a better life.

[PoppySead]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

Not necessarily, many people whether it be alcohol, drugs, gambling are very good at hiding the problem.

Especially if it isn't a long term issue.

And to look at the two of them from recent photos it doesn't look like they were too far along into this habit. When you see people with bad skin, teeth falling out, and they now weigh 30 pounds less than they used to and they weren't trying to lose weight, than you're blind not to notice.

This wasn't the case in this situation.



PoppySead, you sound like a very nice caring person. Don't dwell on that, honestly I would say probably no one knew at this point, now had it continued and worsened and this incident didn't happen, than yes more than likely someone would have picked up on it.

You're smart, concentrate on those kids, they're going to need people like you.

Thank you so much for this post. It really made me feel better. They really didn't exhibit any signs of being Meth addicts. Yes, the kids are everyone's priority now. It's hard enough to have your parents murdered but to find out later it was related to drug abuse is horrific. They have to explain that for the rest of their lives.

[RenW]

All of us have our vices of one kind or another and have made poor choices in the past. It doesn't make them bad people. I'm really sad to see this information divulged to the public. I certainly wouldn't want my dirty laundry aired for all to see. I feel really bad for the family.

[Grannysroost]

Originally Posted by PoppySead

Such a disappointment to friends and family for sure. It's bizarre to think about as from what I've heard nobody knew. Thinking about them searching all over the desert makes me sick. I feel deeply sorry for their kids, and this will leave a long lasting scar for sure. In a way I'm glad that there is at least a reason for this tragedy. I've been worried that the murderer was tied to people out to hurt the whole family, and I've been fearing for my friends safety being a relative. Now I can make sense of it all.

Unfortunately, when you do bad things, it usually ends in jail or death. A hard lesson learned. The trial will be in three years, and probably long and drawn out. The family will continue to suffer for years to come. I hope the public can be appropriate in commenting since their kids will see it. Even if drugs were involved the children are the only ones left to deal with the backlash. It's a sad ending to a very sad event in their lives and it's far from over.

I hope the "I told you so's" are short and people understand the kids weren't the ones using drugs, but they are the ones who will continue living with their parents legacy. Yes, drugs were involved, suspicions confirmed, and they paid the price for that behavior with their lives. I and everyone wishes they would have chosen a different path. At least it makes sense now, that's the only good outcome. The rest is still very hard to swallow. I knew them for 20 years and would have never thought this would happen.

Like Observer said, he hasn't been flying for years. He was injured and could not fly. I'm now wonder if that injury lead to drug abuse. He was on a lot of prescription drugs after the surgery. Gosh, it's just so hard to keep wondering where it all went so wrong. It's just so close to home for me. You just never know. I hear about these house wives addicted to Heroin, and middle class Americans doing Meth but it really just doesn't compute. I don't even drink so it's hard to imagine. I wish I could turn back the hands of time though, my friends are really going through a lot and there is nothing I can do to help. Just such a mess. Now the compassion will be gone, and they will have to deal with it alone. Such a sad turn of events and it just continues to get sadder.

This whole situation is so sad and should not happen, but we all know it does. Prayers to the family, and hugs to you PoppySead...