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Old 06-25-2010, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Oh, yes it is. If McCain had been elected it would be ALL HIS FAULT. It wouldn't matter what the topic was. The lengths we'll go to fool ourselves into thinking we are not partisan.
This is idle speculation. McCain is not the president.
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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With all due respect you wouldn't know a real anti-American Marxist or communist is you saw one up close and personal.
That's an easy way to sidestep the facts and the evidence, isn't it? It's obvious that you wouldn't recognize them, and you don't, even when they are self proclaimed.

Anita Dunn said Mao was on of "two people she turned to most". Obama was raised by communists and socialists, and said that he sought out the Marxists and socialist professors. He has staffed his administration with avowed Marxist and socialists, and they do not even hide from it.

Obviously, you don't even bother to learn who these people are, and you must not even listen to anything they have said publicly. Where do you get your news? Not from any source that has broadcast any of these people's speeches, or public statements on any issues, obviously, or you would be at least half way informed. You are so astoundingly uninformed that all you can do is respond with a child like brush off. How sad.
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OP, I totally agree with your opening statement, but I'll add that when McCain and Obama started running no one knew the banking crisis was coming and that it would put the country in a tail spin, taking all campaign promises off the table. That was a major game changer that would have effect McCain's plans just like it did Obama's.
No one knew? Again, astoundingly uninformed. They all knew. They were avoiding it. Republicans had held hearings on the issue of the looming crisis. The Democrats refused to accept that there was any problem. Fannie and Freddie were sound, they said. They claimed the Republican were simply trying to create crisis where none existed, for political gain.

When were you born? Yesterday?
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Old 06-25-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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I love how democrats want Bush to be responsible for all things but Obama is responsible for nothing.
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:23 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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That's an easy way to sidestep the facts and the evidence, isn't it? It's obvious that you wouldn't recognize them, and you don't, even when they are self proclaimed.

Anita Dunn said Mao was on of "two people she turned to most". Obama was raised by communists and socialists, and said that he sought out the Marxists and socialist professors. He has staffed his administration with avowed Marxist and socialists, and they do not even hide from it.

Obviously, you don't even bother to learn who these people are, and you must not even listen to anything they have said publicly. Where do you get your news? Not from any source that has broadcast any of these people's speeches, or public statements on any issues, obviously, or you would be at least half way informed. You are so astoundingly uninformed that all you can do is respond with a child like brush off. How sad.


No one knew? Again, astoundingly uninformed. They all knew. They were avoiding it. Republicans had held hearings on the issue of the looming crisis. The Democrats refused to accept that there was any problem. Fannie and Freddie were sound, they said. They claimed the Republican were simply trying to create crisis where none existed, for political gain.

When were you born? Yesterday?
I know perfectly well who Anita Dunn is and why she pairs Mother Teresa quotes along side of Mao Zedong quotes i.e. as in find a cause you believe in and fight for it. Just quoting a communist does not make one a communist. I can quote the Bible but that doesn't make me holy.

As for the collapse of Wall Street and the banks getting bailed out before the election, McCain was just as blind-sided by that as Obama was. In fact, just days before the fall, he was still saying everything was just fine and dandy. It was one of his statements that helped him lose the election.

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Old 06-25-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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I Disagree with the OP. If people believed the right things were being done to turn the country around, I believe the people would support it. When we continue to see the same failed policies continued despite the party or administration in charge, it only indicates we will have more of the disintegration of our economy, our liberties, our infrastructure, our sovereignty, and every other quality that in the past; made this a great country.
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Old 06-25-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I know perfectly well who Anita Dunn is and why she pairs Mother Teresa quotes along side of Mao Zedong quotes i.e. as in find a cause you believe in and fight for it. Just quoting a communist does not make one a communist. I can quote the Bible but that doesn't make me holy.
Dunn said that Mao was one her most favorite philosopher. People normally turn towards their favorite philosophers for guidance, direction, focus and/or inspiration. The point was that 0bama claims not be a socialist, Marxist or communist, and yet his life and his administration are flooded with them.

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As for the collapse of Wall Street and the banks getting bailed out before the election, McCain was just as blind-sided by that as Obama was. In fact, just days before the fall, he was still saying everything was just fine and dandy. It was one of his statements that helped him lose the election.
Sen. McCain had been sounding the klaxons since late 2006, when he tried to rein in Fannie Mae and and Freddie Mac and prevent that disaster.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:15 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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And so, your defense of this "ass-in-chief" continues.
Um...ok. You're wrong, but...whatever.

I guess you didn't bother to actually ready anything that I wrote. I guess in your blind partisan zeal you couldn't be bothered with those details.
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Old 06-26-2010, 08:27 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I know perfectly well who Anita Dunn is and why she pairs Mother Teresa quotes along side of Mao Zedong quotes i.e. as in find a cause you believe in and fight for it. Just quoting a communist does not make one a communist. I can quote the Bible but that doesn't make me holy.
I believe that is Mao Tse Tung. And she didn't just quote him. She admires him.

As for the others, If you cared to learn anything at all, you would know that they are self avowed communists, Marxists, etc. Pay attention to what is going on around you. You might be surprised to find that what you think you know is far removed from the truth.

I seriously doubt you can quote the Bible at all, even one verse, correctly. If you can, you wouldn't understand the meaning; but I digress.


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As for the collapse of Wall Street and the banks getting bailed out before the election, McCain was just as blind-sided by that as Obama was. In fact, just days before the fall, he was still saying everything was just fine and dandy. It was one of his statements that helped him lose the election.
You didn't read my post, did you. No one was "blind sided" by it. They have known it was going to happen for years. They ignored it. The problem began with Jimmy Carter and the CRA, which Clinton then greatly expanded, because Democrats wrongly think home ownership is a "right".

What makes you think I am a fan of McCain? I did vote for him. There was no other choice (painfully clear, now).

Perhaps you should become informed on the issues on which you choose to post. You might be more prepared to argue a point. What you offer is not an argument, but personal opinion, based only on what you think.

You have no clue who these people are. Your defense of them looks pretty ridiculous in light of the truth.
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Old 06-26-2010, 08:30 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Dunn said that Mao was one her most favorite philosopher. People normally turn towards their favorite philosophers for guidance, direction, focus and/or inspiration. The point was that 0bama claims not be a socialist, Marxist or communist, and yet his life and his administration are flooded with them.


Sen. McCain had been sounding the klaxons since late 2006, when he tried to rein in Fannie Mae and and Freddie Mac and prevent that disaster.
As a matter of fact, I believe that is what Dunn said, that Mao was one she "turned to most often for guidence". Never mind Mao slaughtered thousands.
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Old 06-26-2010, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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So that's why I say...nobody who had the misfortune of being president right now would be popular - Democrat or Republican.
Actually, if Obama had used his infinite imagination and lack of concern for public opinion for good use, he could have: (1) Gotten us out of the insane foreign war-making and distributed that money to the working class (instead of the upper class bandits who banked it); (2) Repealed Nafta and related nation-destroying and job-destroying ideas; (3) given massive tax breaks to companies that provide jobs (instead of taxing them out of existence); (4) fixed the Health Care crisis by eliminating the insurance middle-man; (5) actually instituted transparent government instead of more-of-the-same backdoor deals; and (6) kept his promises not to increase taxes on those making under $250,000 a year...

if those things had been done immediately, we wouldn't be in the Depression that threatens to drag on for decades, and he'd be immensely popular. Of course, we only got to choose Clone A or Clone B of the Republicrat Party, so real change was never an option.

It will take a Libertarian to fix this Country.
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