Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Should creationism be taught in public schools?
Yes 71 19.09%
No 295 79.30%
I don't know/No opinion 6 1.61%
Voters: 372. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 07-07-2010, 09:26 PM
 
31,387 posts, read 37,119,058 times
Reputation: 15038

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by andrea3821 View Post
Creationism is a fact, you are choosing to not believe it. It is supported by the facts in the Bible, which is divinely inspired.
That is so pathetically funny. Of course your argument is precisely why the teaching of creationism is so patently unconstitutional, not to mention down right stupid.

Quote:
However, it is widely accepted by most Americans as fact, and there's something to say about that.
Not a thing that I can think of, widely accepted or not.

 
Old 07-07-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Midwest
38,496 posts, read 25,876,647 times
Reputation: 10791
Quote:
Originally Posted by gysmo View Post
until scientist can reproduce evolution I will not acept it as a fact but mearly a theory just like creationism and there is where we are teach both as theories not as facts
Here you go.

Quote:
"For the first time, scientists have synthesized RNA enzymes – ribonucleic acid enzymes also known as ribozymes - that can replicate themselves without the help of any proteins or other cellular components."

"What’s more, these simple nucleic acids can act as catalysts and continue the process indefinitely."

"Since he and colleague Tracey Lincoln first succeeded in creating this artificial genetic system that can undergo self-sustained replication and evolution last year, the molecules have changed dramatically as they evolve better and better solutions."
Life-like evolution in a test tube | COSMOS magazine
 
Old 07-07-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
3,197 posts, read 2,858,355 times
Reputation: 1217
Quote:
Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Great video!
 
Old 07-07-2010, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Colorado
9,986 posts, read 18,689,458 times
Reputation: 2178
Quote:
Originally Posted by andrea3821 View Post
Creationism is a fact, you are choosing to not believe it. It is supported by the facts in the Bible, which is divinely inspired.

On another note, if you really want to get into it, a scientific theory is one that can be DISproved, not necessarily that it is widely accepted by the scientific community and heavily supported by facts. Obviously, we cannot disprove the existence of God, so you're correct in saying that it's not an actual theory. However, it is widely accepted by most Americans as fact, and there's something to say about that.
In no way has the idea of creation or the Bible been proved.
As we have not disproved God ( yet) it has not been proven either, but there is far more evidence to support no god than a god.
 
Old 07-07-2010, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Arizona
5,407 posts, read 7,804,728 times
Reputation: 1198
Creationism is more appropriate for Sunday school for those who are so inclined. Science class, uh no. I will not be having my kids listen to those fairy tales when they are supposed to be learning something.
 
Old 07-08-2010, 12:17 AM
 
Location: California
37,159 posts, read 42,310,361 times
Reputation: 35042
If those arguing that evolution hasn't been proven, or is "only a theory like creation is" would just read the links provided (or the responses themselves that put it all in simple words) this thread would stop spinning in circles. It's like every couple of hours a new creationist comes in and repeats the same old nonsense that has already been addressed. It's not even the question of whether it should be taught or not, it's that they don't understand what SCIENTIFIC THEORY means, or what PROOF OF EVOLUTION means. It's hard to have a discussion when people don't even understand the topic.
 
Old 07-08-2010, 12:35 AM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
3,197 posts, read 2,858,355 times
Reputation: 1217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceece View Post
If those arguing that evolution hasn't been proven, or is "only a theory like creation is" would just read the links provided (or the responses themselves that put it all in simple words) this thread would stop spinning in circles. It's like every couple of hours a new creationist comes in and repeats the same old nonsense that has already been addressed. It's not even the question of whether it should be taught or not, it's that they don't understand what SCIENTIFIC THEORY means, or what PROOF OF EVOLUTION means. It's hard to have a discussion when people don't even understand the topic.
So true, but lets not forget, for some people, ignorance is bliss.
 
Old 07-08-2010, 12:41 AM
 
Location: California
37,159 posts, read 42,310,361 times
Reputation: 35042
Quote:
Creationism is a fact, you are choosing to not believe it. It is supported by the facts in the Bible, which is divinely inspired.
You can't use the Bible to prove the Bible...logic 101.

Quote:
On another note, if you really want to get into it, a scientific theory is one that can be DISproved, not necessarily that it is widely accepted by the scientific community and heavily supported by facts.
It's both. I posted a Wiki earlier if you want to read that. And so far nobody has disproven it. That's got to tell you something.

Quote:
Obviously, we cannot disprove the existence of God, so you're correct in saying that it's not an actual theory. However, it is widely accepted by most Americans as fact, and there's something to say about that.
Actually it's not all that widely accepted but of those who do accept it it's mostly American fundamentalists, people who can't think for themselves, people who don't want to think for themselves, people who don't know how to answer polls, people who don't understand science and want to feel smarter than those who do, and people who want to appear "christian" just in case someone is watching. Also a high number of folks who never went to college, which explains a lot.
 
Old 07-08-2010, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
8,806 posts, read 6,127,430 times
Reputation: 2950
Quote:
Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Sounds like the argument the church used against Galileo when he proposed that the earth revolved around the sun instead of the other way around as stated in the bible.
It actually does not state that.
 
Old 07-08-2010, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
8,806 posts, read 6,127,430 times
Reputation: 2950
Quote:
Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
If the authors of the biblical creation story knew what we scientifically know now, I bet they would have written the story differently. It is obvious that the creation story was written by someone with primitive knowledge.
So, you're saying that God has primitive knowledge? You're so silly.

Yes, it was written by men, but the Holy Spirit told them what to write.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top