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Old 07-07-2010, 02:02 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Only person complaining is you.

Get your head out of the sand,there's plenty of people who are complaining here! Guess you forgot how the independents voted AGAINST Coakley!




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Do you have any experience running a small business? If I pay more in taxes I sure as hell am not going to absorb that new expense. My customers just pay more. Sounds easy until you are the customer. You will get less for your dollar while being taxed more, that equation doesn't seem correct to me.

Of course they have no experience.It's easy for them to sit back and THINK they know everything about running a business.Then when they see an increase they complain how businesses are screwing them!
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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I am sure that you are unaware that Romney vetoed numerous sections of the Mass. healthcare law but he was overridden by the democratic legislature.
I was aware that he was overridden in some parts of the legislation and I follow pretty close.The bottom line is that the plan has been a mess and sometimes Mitt is running from it and other times he is tooting his horn.
Here is what Mitt said on signing the bill:
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State legislators had made changes to the bill over his veto, Romney said, even though when he signed the law he called it “exactly what we’d hoped for.’’ Regardless, he argued during his campaign, he believed that the Massachusetts plan would not necessarily work everywhere and that states should be free to follow their own strategies.
Romney defends Massachusetts health care law - The Boston Globe
But hey if you like Mitt that is ok it is a free country.
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:30 PM
 
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So far, I've not heard one pseudo-"conservative" (pseudo and quotes are necessary because the conservatives are mostly an extinct political animal) acknowledge and explain how can one divorce the criticisms of RomneyCare 2.0 aka ObamieCare from the man whom the GOP not only hailed as one of their top presidential candidates but also was just recently one of the top speakers at their latest convention.
Because it's irrelevant. No matter who signed the law, the results are still the same.
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Fixed
What? You find no issues at all with obama?

Everything is just hunky-dory....right?
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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So far i've not read any cogent liberal rebuttal to the OP, which is:
Isn't that a running theme throughout this board though?

They can never articulate a defense for his actions and policies, all they have is deflection.
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Old 07-07-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yes we did, then someone died. 60-1 = 59. Simple math....I know Repugs will argue over that.

Btw, the Dems NEVER had 60 votes, Lieberman and Sanders are both independents.
You had 60 votes all the way up to the Scott victory. How do you think obamacare was passed Xmas eve? With 60 votes.

Those two Indies supported obamacare and they caucus with the democrats.
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Old 07-08-2010, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I was aware that he was overridden in some parts of the legislation and I follow pretty close.The bottom line is that the plan has been a mess and sometimes Mitt is running from it and other times he is tooting his horn.
Here is what Mitt said on signing the bill:

Romney defends Massachusetts health care law - The Boston Globe
But hey if you like Mitt that is ok it is a free country.

I agree it's pretty dumb to say it was what he hoped for after being overridden. We do know, however, that had he not signed some law his veto would have been overridden anyway. He also said it may not work everywhere.....
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