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Old 07-17-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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There's a video to the right of the article.
The 221 ppm sample was taken from a kid digging a hole in the sand and sitting in it.

News 5 Investigates: Testing The Water - Mobile Alabama

"News Five collected samples of water and sand from Orange Beach, Gulf Shores, Katrina Key and Dauphin Island. To our eyes, the samples appeared normal, until we took them to a local lab to be tested.

Water and sand along Alabama's coast should contain no more than five parts per million of oil or petroleum, according to Bob Naman, an analytical chemist. But, the samples we collected tested much higher.

From 16 ppm to 221 ppm, our results are concerning.

Even more disturbing is what happened to a sample collected from the Dauphin Island Marina near oil containment boom."


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Old 07-17-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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There's a video to the right of the article.
The 221 ppm sample was taken from a kid digging a hole in the sand and sitting in it.

News 5 Investigates: Testing The Water - Mobile Alabama

"News Five collected samples of water and sand from Orange Beach, Gulf Shores, Katrina Key and Dauphin Island. To our eyes, the samples appeared normal, until we took them to a local lab to be tested.

Water and sand along Alabama's coast should contain no more than five parts per million of oil or petroleum, according to Bob Naman, an analytical chemist. But, the samples we collected tested much higher.

From 16 ppm to 221 ppm, our results are concerning.

Even more disturbing is what happened to a sample collected from the Dauphin Island Marina near oil containment boom."


Question is, is it harmful to swim in this stuff, or eat fish out of it. What happens if it gets in the drinking supply.

I worry what the future holds
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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Question is, is it harmful to swim in this stuff, or eat fish out of it. What happens if it gets in the drinking supply.

I worry what the future holds
No study was done on Exxon Valdez cleanup workers.
No study that I know of was done by the EPA on long term effects from Exxon Valdez.
Exxon was able to get a court order locking their health related claims.

The people along the Gulf are a living experiment. Who knows what 5-10 years will yield from this.

Petrochemicals are known carcinogens. 5ppm vs 221ppm..would YOU eat the fish ?
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No study was done on Exxon Valdez cleanup workers.
No study that I know of was done by the EPA on long term effects from Exxon Valdez.
Exxon was able to get a court order locking their health related claims.

The people along the Gulf are a living experiment. Who knows what 5-10 years will yield from this.

Petrochemicals are known carcinogens. 5ppm vs 221ppm..would YOU eat the fish ?
Everyones going to eat that fish, sooner or later.

Last I heard, a great deal of the people who worked to clean up the Valdez accident, are dead now.
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Here
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Was the Gulf ever "clean" to begin with?
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:15 PM
 
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I have also read that most of those people are now dead.
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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Petrochemicals are known carcinogens. 5ppm vs 221ppm..would YOU eat the fish ?
A lot of the seafood from the gulf that Americans eat (shrimp and oysters) are pretty low down the food chain, and as a result anything from the oil should pass through that population fairly quickly. My guess is if you wait a year or two those creatures will probably be as healthy as they were before. You might want to stear cleer of apex predators like sharks and alligators for a while since it will accumulate in their fat, but then again shark meat has been known to be a pool for mercury and other bad things for awhile. Same thing for coastal gators although most folks don't eat wild gator anyways so it isn't much of a concern.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:45 PM
 
Location: east of my daughter-north of my son
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Last week on CNN one of the reporters went out with an oyster fisherman. He hauled up, it seemed like tons, of oysters and they were all dead. He said in this area the oysters were affected by the fresh water that was being released into the Gulf to "push" the oil back out.

According to him, it might take at least three years to get the oysters back.

It was his last trip out.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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A lot of the seafood from the gulf that Americans eat (shrimp and oysters) are pretty low down the food chain, and as a result anything from the oil should pass through that population fairly quickly. My guess is if you wait a year or two those creatures will probably be as healthy as they were before. You might want to stear cleer of apex predators like sharks and alligators for a while since it will accumulate in their fat, but then again shark meat has been known to be a pool for mercury and other bad things for awhile. Same thing for coastal gators although most folks don't eat wild gator anyways so it isn't much of a concern.
I figure min 1 year, 2 to be safe.
Until then..catfish from my stocked pond.
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Old 07-18-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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A lot of the seafood from the gulf that Americans eat (shrimp and oysters) are pretty low down the food chain, and as a result anything from the oil should pass through that population fairly quickly. My guess is if you wait a year or two those creatures will probably be as healthy as they were before. You might want to stear cleer of apex predators like sharks and alligators for a while since it will accumulate in their fat, but then again shark meat has been known to be a pool for mercury and other bad things for awhile. Same thing for coastal gators although most folks don't eat wild gator anyways so it isn't much of a concern.
The problem with this argument is this. With the oil dispersants, all of the oil is going to the bottom, right where the low end of the food chain are going to be. The shrimp, oysters, and all of the stuff that everything else eats on are going to get the worst part of the contamination.

40% of all seafood that America eats, comes from the gulf of Mexico.

You can't screw up that much of the dietary needs of the country, and not expect it to get into everyone.

The question is, how much is enough to hurt you? No one knows for sure. People talk about cell phone radiation, yet you get more radiation by standing next to your microwave, with the door shut. You probably get more petroleum toxins in your system by driving your car. So where is the danger point? Will we get there?

The answer is, no one knows at this point.
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