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Old 08-10-2010, 02:12 AM
 
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FCC sets Internet regulation in motion | Signal Strength - CNET News

If the legalities werent being put into place, there would be no need for the FCC to get involved. In addition, the federal government already has jurisdiction over the internet because it deals with interstate commerce..

nice that you point to an article that says the opposite of what you are claiming:

The Federal Communications Commission voted unanimously Thursday to get the ball rolling on creating regulation that will keep the Internet open.

--- the FCC wants to keep it open, prohibiting ISP (like AT&T, ComCast, AoHell) from instituting their form of prohibition from customers to get to the websites they want to see.


The internet, although open is still private property to companies that provide you access. The "sites" that you see are all hosted on private servers that can at anytime prohibit you from seeing it, or the ISP you use can choose to prohibit you from seeing it.


This has been in place for more than 20 years; its NOTHING new and this complain has been coming up for the last ten years with nothing moving forward on the govt end or the ISP's since "exploring" limitations of consumers to what the ISP's wnat you to see.


Just more "mountain out of a mole hill" idiocy.
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Old 08-10-2010, 02:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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FCC sets Internet regulation in motion | Signal Strength - CNET News

If the legalities werent being put into place, there would be no need for the FCC to get involved. In addition, the federal government already has jurisdiction over the internet because it deals with interstate commerce..
Oh dear, please read your own links next time

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The Federal Communications Commission voted unanimously Thursday to get the ball rolling on creating regulation that will keep the Internet open.
Notice the bold....
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Old 08-10-2010, 04:15 AM
 
Location: texas
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i never thought it could happen until wiki leaks puplished the 92 thousand files about the war efforts in afghanistan. you know it could be like 911, some realy impotant highly classifed documents getting puplished on the web that threatens us security and gives the us gov a reason to start to censor the internet. just like homeland security infringing on the peoples basic human rights??

so what you think??

In a nutshell, yes. Censorship and being PC are on the rise.....
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:57 AM
 
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nice that you point to an article that says the opposite of what you are claiming:

The Federal Communications Commission voted unanimously Thursday to get the ball rolling on creating regulation that will keep the Internet open.

--- the FCC wants to keep it open, prohibiting ISP (like AT&T, ComCast, AoHell) from instituting their form of prohibition from customers to get to the websites they want to see.


The internet, although open is still private property to companies that provide you access. The "sites" that you see are all hosted on private servers that can at anytime prohibit you from seeing it, or the ISP you use can choose to prohibit you from seeing it.


This has been in place for more than 20 years; its NOTHING new and this complain has been coming up for the last ten years with nothing moving forward on the govt end or the ISP's since "exploring" limitations of consumers to what the ISP's wnat you to see.


Just more "mountain out of a mole hill" idiocy.
Actually no..
It points out that the internet has the AUTHORITY to be controlled by the FCC. The vote couldnt have taken place if the legal groundwork wasnt in place to give the FCC control.
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:01 AM
 
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Oh dear, please read your own links next time
I did read the link before I posted it..

The Federal Communications Commission voted

If the internet wasnt "open" to be controlled, then the FCC would have no jurisdiction to vote.. While they voted THIS time to leave it open, they very much could vote next time not to...

Why would they have a need to vote for something to be left open, was someone proposing to close it?
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I did read the link before I posted it..

The Federal Communications Commission voted

If the internet wasnt "open" to be controlled, then the FCC would have no jurisdiction to vote.. While they voted THIS time to leave it open, they very much could vote next time not to...

Why would they have a need to vote for something to be left open, was someone proposing to close it?
ISP providers such as Verizon, Comcast, and some others, controlling speeds of certain websites, how fast they load or not, perhaps blocking access at all. This is basically about net neutrality and the FCC took a step in order to preserve net neutrality so the internet does not become controlled by just a few corporations.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
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"National Security" what a load of horsecrap. The Internet is a wild open horizon, and the gorilla rides a mustang. Kill the gorilla, and mustang, up jumps a suagaro, and a dinosaur. And so much for depriving internet addicts of their right to indulge.
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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A message from moveon- but don't shoot the messenger, please. I wonder if this is true.

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Big news: according to reports, Google is about to cut a terrible deal with Verizon that would end the fair, open Internet as we know it.1

The reported Google-Verizon deal would allow giant corporations to control which websites load quickly and easily on the Internet and dump everyone else onto an Internet slow lane. This is exactly the kind of unequal playing field that Google itself has opposed in the past.2

We only have a few days to stop it, so we're launching a grassroots protest calling on Google to scuttle the deal. Will you sign our emergency petition to Google? Click here to sign:

http://pol.moveon.org/google/?id=223...65-BkLllSx&t=4

Looks like some conflicting info from the sources:

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Sources:

1. "Google and Verizon Near Deal on Web Pay Tiers," The New York Times, August 5, 2010
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/te.../05secret.html
2. "Google Just Killed Net Neutrality," Gizmodo, August 5, 2010
http://gizmodo.com/5605310/google-ju...net-neutrality

3. "Network Neutrality Fact Sheet," Common Cause, April 6, 2010
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87794&id=2...65-BkLllSx&t=7

4. Google Investor Relations: Code of Conduct, accessed August 5, 2010
http://investor.google.com/corporate...f-conduct.html

5. "FCC Chair Proposes Net Neutrality Rules," Digital Daily, September 21, 2009
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=87795&id=2...65-BkLllSx&t=8

6. "Google Just Killed Net Neutrality," Gizmodo, August 5, 2010
http://gizmodo.com/5605310/google-ju...net-neutrality

7. "Google Denies Priority Internet Access Deal With Verizon," PC Magazine, August 5, 2010
Google Denies Priority Internet Access Deal With Verizon | News & Opinion | PCMag.com


What I'm trying to understand re the above ^ is HOW does Google/Verizon have the POWER to do this??

I signed the petition. What can it hurt?- it might keep them from even thinking about doing this. __________________
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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i never thought it could happen until wiki leaks puplished the 92 thousand files about the war efforts in afghanistan. you know it could be like 911, some realy impotant highly classifed documents getting puplished on the web that threatens us security and gives the us gov a reason to start to censor the internet. just like homeland security infringing on the peoples basic human rights??

so what you think??

I think Reichstag fire.

They've already indicated the desire for final control of all Internet content.


YouTube - ‪The End of the Internet? Cybersecurity Act gives Obama power to shut down internet, ignore laws‬‎
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Old 08-10-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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I think Reichstag fire.

They've already indicated the desire for final control of all Internet content.


YouTube - ‪The End of the Internet? Cybersecurity Act gives Obama power to shut down internet, ignore laws‬‎
Reichstag fire....very interesting. A false flag operation to garner public support for control of the internet? Could well be, and we fall for it every time.
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