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Old 08-19-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Ground Zero mosque debate swirls in world capitals


The Ground Zero mosque debate is garnering increased attention in the world press, with Muslims coming down on both sides of the proposed center two blocks from the former World Trade Center.


“Muslims do not aspire for a mosque next to the September 11 cemetery,” Mr. Al-Rashed wrote. He added that "the mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they have not heard of it until the shouting became loud between the supporters and the objectors, which is mostly an argument between non-Muslim US citizens!"



Shakib Bin-Makhlouf, president of the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe, told Arab News (http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article104957.ece - broken link) that he supports the proposed Islamic center and appreciated President Obama coming out in support of it. “Islam has nothing to do with the events that happened on 9/11,” Mr. Bin-Makhlouf told the agency. “Unfortunately, the media has contributed in tying terrorism to Islam. When a non-Muslim commits an act of terror, no one refers to his religion.” (he apparently does not pay attention to Christian bashing then)
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:30 PM
 
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Ground Zero mosque debate swirls in world capitals


The Ground Zero mosque debate is garnering increased attention in the world press, with Muslims coming down on both sides of the proposed center two blocks from the former World Trade Center.


“Muslims do not aspire for a mosque next to the September 11 cemetery,” Mr. Al-Rashed wrote. He added that "the mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they have not heard of it until the shouting became loud between the supporters and the objectors, which is mostly an argument between non-Muslim US citizens!"



Shakib Bin-Makhlouf, president of the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe, told Arab News (http://arabnews.com/middleeast/article104957.ece - broken link) that he supports the proposed Islamic center and appreciated President Obama coming out in support of it. “Islam has nothing to do with the events that happened on 9/11,” Mr. Bin-Makhlouf told the agency. “Unfortunately, the media has contributed in tying terrorism to Islam. When a non-Muslim commits an act of terror, no one refers to his religion.” (he apparently does not pay attention to Christian bashing then)
Oh boy. This guy's a real gem. "Islam had nothing to do with the evens that happened on 9/11."

Talk about having your head in the sand.

Let's recap with a little cockpit transcript verbiage to refresh his memory:

09:58:33 Let's go guys. Allah is greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh guys. Allah is greatest.
09:58:44 Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.
09:59:42 Trust in Allah, and in him.
10:00:59 Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:03 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:04 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03;06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.

End of recording.

Tell me again why I'm supposed to trust Islam when we have Deniers amongst us?

Last edited by AeroGuyDC; 08-19-2010 at 02:40 PM..
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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When a non-Muslim commits an act of terror, no one refers to his religion.”

Except the attacks were done in the name of Allah...when you shout akbar, akbar..or atchoo..or whatever it is that they shout right before they slice your head off...it is hard not to call this a fanatical religious based violent movement. Muslims stand up and call your newspapers and take to the streets and denounce these radicals..it is the only way we will believe you and find you credible...
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:44 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Oh boy. This guy's a real gem. "Islam had nothing to do with the evens that happened on 9/11."

Talk about having your head in the sand.

Let's recap with a little cockpit transcript verbiage to refresh his memory:

09:58:33 Let's go guys. Allah is greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh guys. Allah is greatest.
09:58:44 Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.
09:59:42 Trust in Allah, and in him.
10:00:59 Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:03 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:04 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03;06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.

End of recording.

Tell me again why I'm supposed to trust Islam when we have Deniers amongst us?
Remember this?

"After 9/11 the media did multiple interviews with a kindly and friendly Imam, by the name of Anwar Al-Awlaki. Anwar explained to every media outlet that would listen that Islam is opposed to terrorism and anyone who thinks otherwise misunderstood one of those 12,000 "You Shall Smite the Infidel" verses in the Koran. After doing enough interviews on NPR and PBS, Anwar Al-Awlaki is hiding from US drones somewhere in Yemen, and has been linked to both the Fort Hood Massacre and the Times Square Bomber." LINK (http://www.eurasiareview.com/201008177103/just-the-facts-imam-new-york-mosque.html - broken link)
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Oh boy. This guy's a real gem. "Islam had nothing to do with the evens that happened on 9/11."

Talk about having your head in the sand.

Let's recap with a little cockpit transcript verbiage to refresh his memory:

09:58:33 Let's go guys. Allah is greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh guys. Allah is greatest.
09:58:44 Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.
09:59:42 Trust in Allah, and in him.
10:00:59 Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:03 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:04 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03;06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.

End of recording.

Tell me again why I'm supposed to trust Islam when we have Deniers amongst us?
Maybe the New Cordoba Mosque will have room for a Friday night Islam comedy club. It can be come as you are, right after prayers. 'I'll have a shot of double boiled sweet tea, please...', as jokes begin about the Iran Air Flight 744 to Venezuela.
Quote:
"My understanding is that this flight not only goes from Caracas to Damascus to Tehran perhaps twice a month, but it also occasionally makes stops in Lebanon as well, and the passengers on that flight are not processed through normal Venezuelan immigrations or customs. They are processed separately when they come into the country"

"In addition to speculation about who is aboard, there are significant concerns that the Boeing 747SP airplane might be transporting uranium to Tehran on the return flight."

Last edited by Willsson; 08-19-2010 at 03:06 PM..
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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In the end it might just be settle in thier trying to actaully get it built which will not be easy in a union dominated area like new york city. Remmeebr that many of those same people dug the bodies out of the two world trade buildings in 2001.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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In the end it might just be settle in thier trying to actaully get it built which will not be easy in a union dominated area like new york city. Remmeebr that many of those same people dug the bodies out of the two world trade buildings in 2001.
It sure would be difficult to build a building without union labor. I mean, the teamsters to get the supplies to the site, the steel workers, the carpenters, the electicians, ect..... This is where true "consolidation" needs to come into action. Maybe they'll bring in Saudi workers to build it. Gotta make sure it is up to code then.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Default It's not a mosque and it's not at ground zero

Posting the same misinformation time and again will not make it become fact.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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Posting the same misinformation time and again will not make it become fact.

By that note, someone posting the same provoking gibberish doesn't change facts either.
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Old 08-21-2010, 02:38 PM
 
Location: 96820
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Oh boy. This guy's a real gem. "Islam had nothing to do with the evens that happened on 9/11."

Talk about having your head in the sand.

Let's recap with a little cockpit transcript verbiage to refresh his memory:

09:58:33 Let's go guys. Allah is greatest. Allah is greatest. Oh guys. Allah is greatest.
09:58:44 Oh Allah. Oh Allah. Oh the most gracious.
09:59:42 Trust in Allah, and in him.
10:00:59 Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:02 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:03 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:04 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03;06 Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.
10:03:09 Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest.

End of recording.

Tell me again why I'm supposed to trust Islam when we have Deniers amongst us?

Allahu Akbar
German mosque used by Sept. 11 attackers shut down | AP Top Stories | Idaho Statesman (http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/08/09/1296474/german-mosque-used-by-sept-11.html#storylink=mirelated - broken link)

German mosque used by Sept. 11 attackers shut down

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