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Old 09-02-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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Of course. But you'd have to go through all the proper paperwork to get a charter school going, acquire teachers of decent quality, and get parents to put their child(ren) in the school. It's not just an overnight process.
Of course, it wouldn't be overnight. But because I wouldn't have any regulations it wouldn't take me very long at all. My staff wouldn't have to meet the same requirements. Its paid for through taxes.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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Yeah, I could. Cool, eh?
Good luck with that...keep us posted.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Of course, it wouldn't be overnight. But because I wouldn't have any regulations it wouldn't take me very long at all. My staff wouldn't have to meet the same requirements. Its paid for through taxes.
Actually, your staff would have to meet the same requirements. Try researching a little first.

"California Education Code (EC) Section 47605(l) states that teachers in charter schools are required to hold a Commission on Teacher Credentialing certificate, permit, or other document equivalent to that which a teacher in other public schools would be required to hold. EC Section 47605(l) also states that it is the intent of the Legislature that charter schools be given flexibility with regard to noncore, non-college preparatory courses. Currently, this flexibility is not extended to countywide benefit charter schools approved under EC Section 47605.6.

Administrators and non-teaching staff in a charter school are not required to be credentialed."
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:23 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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(1) Do you pledge to a free market capitalism? (2) And do they even know what it is and are they aware enough to comprehend what that is? (3)Or are you just wanting to program them to your specific ideology?
Yes! Yes, and yes they will. Yes, I take that responsibility!

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capitalism vs. socialism. either the crook businessmen have the money and power, or the crook politician has the money and the power. do you see an actual difference? I'll take the crook businessmen, because at least they aren't lawyers.
[quote=lifelongMOgal;15728893]Are you so blind as to not see there is also a political agenda of Socialism at public schools?

Is it the competing ideology that upsets you or that any ideology is pushed at all?

I'm with buddy5, teach reading (literature), writing, math, basic economics, physical sciences (not social science), non-revisionist history, foriegn languages, and leave the ideology, sex, and religion out of school (except private parochial schools).

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Thank you Mogal, you got that right!!!
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:24 AM
 
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Actually, your staff would have to meet the same requirements. Try researching a little first.

"California Education Code (EC) Section 47605(l) states that teachers in charter schools are required to hold a Commission on Teacher Credentialing certificate, permit, or other document equivalent to that which a teacher in other public schools would be required to hold. EC Section 47605(l) also states that it is the intent of the Legislature that charter schools be given flexibility with regard to noncore, non-college preparatory courses. Currently, this flexibility is not extended to countywide benefit charter schools approved under EC Section 47605.6.

Administrators and non-teaching staff in a charter school are not required to be credentialed."
It isn't going to take that long. And right now, I could probably hire 'em and fire 'em and replace 'em in a day.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:26 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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It isn't going to take that long. And right now, I could probably hire 'em and fire 'em and replace 'em in a day.

Don't spew it, do it.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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Are you so blind as to not see there is also a political agenda of Socialism at public schools?

Is it the competing ideology that upsets you or that any ideology is pushed at all?

I'm with buddy5, teach reading (literature), writing, math, basic economics, physical sciences (not social science), non-revisionist history, foriegn languages, and leave the ideology, sex, and religion out of school (except private parochial schools).

I don't like what the charter schools in my area teach either as they use my tax dollars to do it. Solution: move and remove my tax dollars.
No, I'm actually not a socialist. It is the point of it. Why is this hard?
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:26 AM
 
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look at where the US ranked in terms of education before the department of education, and look where we rank no. total joke of an organization.
The Department of Education has very little influence or jurisdictional control of what happens in schools in this country. The biggest influence by far is LOCAL school boards, LOCAL boards of education, LOCAL teachers’ unions, and mandates coming from STATE boards or departments of EDUCATION.

For the people advocating for STATES RIGHTS and less interference from the federal government the quality of education in a state is a DIRECT REFLECTION OF STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT!

The irony here is the for those people that advocate either conservative or liberal political beliefs education is a direct reflection of how those beliefs apply in terms of educating children and the quality of education a child may receive.

And while you are complaining about education in this country also keep in mind that in ALL of the countries with advanced educational systems that are whipping America's ass in terms of educating grades K-12 have educational standards, curriculum, budgets and quality control done AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL to insure the standard of education is uniform and EVERY CHILD has a much better chance at a quality education.
But........................THAT'S SOCIALISM
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:46 PM
 
Location: California
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I am against kids pledging anything. It's absolutely the wrong way to go about "educating" anyone no matter how lofty the goals may seem.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Are you so blind as to not see there is also a political agenda of Socialism at public schools?

Is it the competing ideology that upsets you or that any ideology is pushed at all?

I'm with buddy5, teach reading (literature), writing, math, basic economics, physical sciences (not social science), non-revisionist history, foriegn languages, and leave the ideology, sex, and religion out of school (except private parochial schools).

I don't like what the charter schools in my area teach either as they use my tax dollars to do it. Solution: move and remove my tax dollars.
No biology, no history, geography, civics, government?
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