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View Poll Results: Which of the following should be illegal?
Same-sex marriage 32 21.19%
Pornography 18 11.92%
Abortion 33 21.85%
None. All should be legal. 106 70.20%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 151. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-12-2010, 07:53 AM
 
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Do you know how many straight people want to lower the age of consent? A lot.

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Gay Activist Peter Tatchell wants to lower the age of consent to 14 in Britain. Of course pedophelia has nothing to do with it. Of course not. Never. Rigggght.

CONSENT AT 14 (http://www.petertatchell.net/age%20of%20consent/consent%20at%2014.htm - broken link)
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Ayrsley
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Meanwhile, I (and millions of others) will oppose you. Not out of hatred or "bigotry" (THAT silly assertion is the real straw-man), but a bedrock belief that marriage is an institution between a man and woman. And -- more importantly -- that children need and deserve what God/nature intended; which is a male father and a female mother to properly guide and nurture them. No amount of legislation can ever change that. Anymore than one can erase God with an edict (to borrow from a very hard-hitting piece of dialogue out of an old Twilight Zone epidode...The Obsolete Man)
No...the real strawman in this argument is to claim that something is "wrong" because "god" says its wrong.

I don't have to defend my opinion...my book of fairly tales says that the invisible man in the sky says I am right. End of discussion.

Having said that - I don't care what particular brand of mythology you believe in. If it works for you - great. Live your life by those principles...good for you.

However, when it comes to how we function as a society...if you feel that something should be illegal, then you need to show me how that activity is harmful, and how making it illegal will make our society a better and safer place. If your only argument is that it is "god's will" (or something like that) - go away and come back when you can provide a valid argument. You can live your life by whatever religious mumbo-jumbo you like...but don't try to force the rest of us to have to live our lives by those beliefs.
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It is certainly sever by our standards, but perhaps necessary in a third world nation in which the rate of HIV infection is out of control and other methods of control have failed.

Simple question, isn't deliberately infecting another person with HIV essentially attempted murder or even murder if they eventually die as a result?

It's to be expected that you want to jeer the Christian, but aren't countless innocent domestic partners and children put at risk because HIV carriers deliberately spread HIV?
Ah, the unwashed, uneducated masses have arrived...
HIV/AIDS is rampant in Africa bc of heterosexual sex, not homosexual sex.
But why go to school to learn and think when you can let the bible do it for you?
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Gay Activist Peter Tatchell wants to lower the age of consent to 14 in Britain. Of course pedophelia has nothing to do with it. Of course not. Never. Rigggght.

CONSENT AT 14 (http://www.petertatchell.net/age%20of%20consent/consent%20at%2014.htm - broken link)
Right. Because christians have never married at 13 or 14...oh, wait...yes, they did. Just up until the last 100 years. Learn some history, people.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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Gay Activist Peter Tatchell wants to lower the age of consent to 14 in Britain. Of course pedophelia has nothing to do with it. Of course not. Never. Rigggght.

CONSENT AT 14 (http://www.petertatchell.net/age%20of%20consent/consent%20at%2014.htm - broken link)
Instead of making accusations like that, why not address the actual subject? Peter Tatchell is arguing two things:

1. The age of consent should be the same for homosexual sex as it is for heterosexual sex. Currently, in Britain, it's 16 for heterosexual sex, but 18 for homosexual sex.

2. Why should a 15 year old who has sex in a consensual relationship with another 15 year old be considered a criminal?

If you can't accept the fact that teenagers are sexual beings, you're not dealing with reality.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:44 AM
 
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You simply will never get it and its not our job to "educate" you on why you will never get it.

Legislating a group of people's rights away is what is judicial tyranny.
I wouldn't worry much about people like that. At this point, the marriage issue is mostly in the hands of the courts where, thankfully, decisions are usually made based on the Constitution, not on religion or homophobia.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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None of that should be illegal.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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At this point, the marriage issue is mostly in the hands of the courts where, thankfully, decisions are usually made based on the Constitution, not on religion or homophobia.
Actually, the "marriage issue" is in the hands of co-conspirators who have nothing but disdain for the constitution or the Declaration of Independence.

And homophobia is an inaccurate explanation - it is not based on "fear" - but distrust.

One of the fundamental values of civilization is the protection of women and children. "Women and Children FIRST - into the lifeboats!" illustrates that belief. Heterosexuals do not trust that homosexual males to instinctively protect women, since they're more interested in their own gender and partners.
{Do any homosexual males "instinctively" protect women before their own partners? Seems illogical to expect that. But I may be in error.}

Likewise, the major beneficiaries of marriage are the women and children of that marriage. Before national socialism (1935), an unwed mother was certainly in dire straits. (Non custodial child support is empowered by FICA, 1935). However, a homosexual marriage is not for the protection of women nor children of that marriage. Sexual gratification is not a valid reason for a marriage contract.

{One of consequences of socialism is the erosion of the family and marriage. When a woman can use the government to support herself and children, why bother with the hassle of marriage.}

The ire of heterosexuals who will be forced by socialist government to work for the benefit of homosexuals, who will seek entitlements based on marriage status, is legitimate. For such marriages are a sham and a scam.

Of course, once enough irate heterosexuals discover that their "legal obligation" is based on their consent, the socialist government may have wished they virulently opposed homosexual marriage in the first place.

I wonder what the government will do when 51% withdraw consent?
Buy one-way tickets to nations that do not extradite?
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Old 09-12-2010, 03:12 PM
 
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Actually, the "marriage issue" is in the hands of co-conspirators who have nothing but disdain for the constitution or the Declaration of Independence.
And homophobia is an inaccurate explanation - it is not based on "fear" - but distrust.

One of the fundamental values of civilization is the protection of women and children. "Women and Children FIRST - into the lifeboats!" illustrates that belief. Heterosexuals do not trust that homosexual males to instinctively protect women, since they're more interested in their own gender and partners.
{Do any homosexual males "instinctively" protect women before their own partners? Seems illogical to expect that. But I may be in error.}

Likewise, the major beneficiaries of marriage are the women and children of that marriage. Before national socialism (1935), an unwed mother was certainly in dire straits. (Non custodial child support is empowered by FICA, 1935). However, a homosexual marriage is not for the protection of women nor children of that marriage. Sexual gratification is not a valid reason for a marriage contract.

{One of consequences of socialism is the erosion of the family and marriage. When a woman can use the government to support herself and children, why bother with the hassle of marriage.}

The ire of heterosexuals who will be forced by socialist government to work for the benefit of homosexuals, who will seek entitlements based on marriage status, is legitimate. For such marriages are a sham and a scam.

Of course, once enough irate heterosexuals discover that their "legal obligation" is based on their consent, the socialist government may have wished they virulently opposed homosexual marriage in the first place.

I wonder what the government will do when 51% withdraw consent?
Buy one-way tickets to nations that do not extradite?


LOL Wut?
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Way,Way Up On The Old East Coast
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Default History Repeating Itself ???

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Hopefully more and more Christians will step up to protest the homosexual agenda. Everyone needs to keep their sex life and their perversions behind closed doors.
dcsldcd !!! ... Great Post As Usual ! I will Rep you when the great moderators say it's okay again !!!

Perhaps we are witness in our time to a most dramatic repetition of history !

The wonders and marvels of world history are well worth our indepth and astute attention are they not ?

Indeed it may be most probable that those so called Thousands of Conservative Christians " reported within this thread ... may well dynamically develop into hundreds of millions within a very short time span !

As we further consider this current phenomon may we further project that quite possibily a new era of a most resolutely united kingdom of "Christian Crusaders" may well be dawning before our very eyes !

It may be that the historically recorded "European Crusaders" and their extensive and unprecedented "Crusades for Jerusalem" so long ago will be possibly emulated and or compared to these modern day Christian warriors who stand for principal, decency, and morals within todays sadly decadent society !

Let us keep our eyes open and behold how these probable "Modern Day Christian Crusaders" deal with such gross immorality as ... well you know that messy stuff mentioned in the thread like abortion, pornography and of course that unfortunate one we hear so much about called same sex marriage !!!

In final analysis we my friends just might be witness to a tremendous time of change regarding the above mentioned blights upon the human race. just perhaps now mind you ... history may be repaeating itself yet again !!!

I love history ... don't you ??? History, it's made every day !

Some of us can't wait to see how it all works out !

Thanks / Old Sgt. Lamar
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