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View Poll Results: Which of the following should be illegal?
Same-sex marriage 32 21.19%
Pornography 18 11.92%
Abortion 33 21.85%
None. All should be legal. 106 70.20%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 151. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-05-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Boise
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And others get to say that your lifestyle choice is perverse and disgusting - and that, though you are perfectly free to conduct your personal life as you please, talk of "gay" marriage is ridiculous on it's face.

See how that works?
believe me.. I'm very much aware of "that" opinion of yours... thanks!
but unfortunately you're becoming the minority on this issue..

america is too great for hate.. so make yourself scarce hun
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:15 PM
 
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believe me.. I'm very much aware of "that" opinion of yours... thanks!
but unfortunately you're becoming the minority on this issue..

america is too great for hate.. so make yourself scarce hun
This is a great example of narrow-mindedness. Why do you automatically chalk up disagreement with your position on homosexual marriage as being traceable to "hate"? Or, *gasp* "homophobia"? (whatever the hell that means).

I couldn't care less what two consenting adults do behind closed doors (or three or four or five of them, of whatever mix of race, sex, religion, etc).

And I dare say the vast majority of those of us who do not want marriage re-defined from its solid historical roots and definition of between a man and woman, feel the same way.

Minority on the issue? Sorry. Even in liberal states like California, the will of the people are clear on it. They simply dont accept the two as equal. Nor desirable.

Why does it seem to almost be intrinsic to your position that "hate" is the underlying reason for why some of us oppose "gay marriage" and believe that children should not be the pawns in an outrageous social experiment via gay couple adoption and/or surrogate mothers/sperm donors.

Hate has nothing to do with it. It is just that some of us see it as simply against the laws of God/Nature.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:18 PM
 
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This is a great example of narrow-mindedness. Why do you automatically chalk up disagreement with your position on homosexual marriage as being traceable to "hate"? Or, *gasp* "homophobia"? (whatever the hell that means).

I couldn't care less what two consenting adults do behind closed doors (or three or four or five of them, of whatever mix of race, sex, religion, etc).

And I dare say the vast majority of those of us who do not want marriage re-defined from its solid historical roots and definition of between a man and woman, feel the same way.

Minority on the issue? Sorry. Even in liberal states like California, the will of the people are clear on it. They simply dont accept the two as equal. Nor desirable.
maybe he doesn't know... God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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If you want to live a sinful life thats your choice. just don't shove it down our throats.
Nothing's being shoved down your throat. If you don't like homosexuality, don't engage in it; if you don't like pornography, don't watch it, and if you don't approve of abortion, don't have one.

Oops - I just noticed you didn't vote to make pornography illegal. Looks like a lot of heterosexual conservative men want to ban abortion and same-sex marriage, but not pornography. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by that. (But I bet some of them would ban gay pornography! )
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:30 PM
 
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Nothing's being shoved down your throat. If you don't like homosexuality, don't engage in it; if you don't like pornography, don't watch it, and if you don't approve of abortion, don't have one.
I can do what I want, thanks for your concern tough guy! This isn't about me... I don't think our gov't should be endorsing immoral, perverted, and unnatural behavior. Its going to happen, but it doesn't mean that its ok.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:34 PM
 
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I don't think our gov't should be endorsing immoral, perverted, and unnatural behavior.
The problem is that "immoral, perverted, and unnatural behavior" is all relative. It wasn't long ago that most people said oral sex is immoral and perverted - and I'm sure many social conservatives still do.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Boise
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This is a great example of narrow-mindedness. Why do you automatically chalk up disagreement with your position on homosexual marriage as being traceable to "hate"? Or, *gasp* "homophobia"? (whatever the hell that means).

I couldn't care less what two consenting adults do behind closed doors (or three or four or five of them, of whatever mix of race, sex, religion, etc).

And I dare say the vast majority of those of us who do not want marriage re-defined from its solid historical roots and definition of between a man and woman, feel the same way.

Minority on the issue? Sorry. Even in liberal states like California, the will of the people are clear on it. They simply dont accept the two as equal. Nor desirable.

Why does it seem to almost be intrinsic to your position that "hate" is the underlying reason for why some of us oppose "gay marriage" and believe that children should not be the pawns in an outrageous social experiment via gay couple adoption and/or surrogate mothers/sperm donors.

Hate has nothing to do with it. It is just that some of us see it as simply against the laws of God/Nature.
where do you get your beliefs on this from though? facts? because facts support gay marriage advocates...
some people believe that god planted one man.. adam.. and one woman eve on this planet 6000 years ago.. which began the human race by god..
others believe that the human race came about by a long processes of evolution along with all other life on this planet...
who's right? could evolution believers be wrong? absolutely..but they have EVIDENCE to support their position...
big difference in formulation of beliefs... one is as fair as it can be givin our limited knowledge.. the other is outrageous, unfounded, and ridiculous considering the limited evidence we do know!
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:39 PM
 
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where do you get your beliefs on this from though? facts? because facts support gay marriage advocates...
some people believe that god planted one man.. adam.. and one woman eve on this planet 6000 years ago.. which began the human race by god..
others believe that the human race came about by a long processes of evolution along with all other life on this planet...
who's right? could evolution believers be wrong? absolutely..but they have EVIDENCE to support their position...
big difference in formulation of beliefs... one is as fair as it can be givin our limited knowledge.. the other is outrageous, unfounded, and ridiculous considering the limited evidence we do know!
so you're saying that homosexuality is natural?
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:39 PM
 
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so you're saying that homosexuality is natural?
Yes, just as natural as being left-handed.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:41 PM
 
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Nothing's being shoved down your throat. If you don't like homosexuality, don't engage in it; if you don't like pornography, don't watch it, and if you don't approve of abortion, don't have one.
C'mon, UAM. We generally get along with one another...and even agree on certain other topics. But it is not quite that simple as you present.

It is not a matter of "not liking" homosexuality. Homosexuality is nothing new. What IS new is the homosexual agenda and it being forced upon the American people (yeah, ok, I hate that cliche' too! LOL) as in the sense of the always "tolerant" attitude is no longer enough. NOW, by gawd, like it or lump it, one is going to have to outright accept it on par with traditional notions of marriage, etc.

Pornography is easy...you are right. Dont read it or dont tune into the Playboy channels! LOL (Hell, I used to sneak them into my room and hide them under my bed! ). But each locale has the authority to allow/ban it based upon community standards.

Abortion is not so simple as all that. It really comes down to a matter of when one believes life begins. To just say "don't have one"? Well, that really, really, reduces it to the lowest common denominator in terms of so many considerations.
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