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Old 09-07-2010, 04:33 PM
 
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I know you libs love equating christianity to islam, but can you show me the last bombing done in the name of christianity?
No problem...

Northern Ireland Police Evacuate Two Schools on Bomb Fears - BusinessWeek

Northern Ireland major escapes booby-trap bomb | UK news | The Guardian

Car bombing in Northern Ireland - Northern Ireland : news, world | euronews

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6826197.ece
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:34 PM
 
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Make the US look like Nazi Germany...?

That is over dramatic.....

I support their right to do it. 100 percent.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Rockport Texas from El Paso
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Default Pastor Terry Jones buring Koran

I didn't agree with this but wanted to find out his reasons. As the story unfolded we find he has been a minister for 40 years and was on the verge of bankruptcy with only 30 followers in his church.


This is the only way he can get money- finding some rich fanatics and they are out there.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Could our liberal guests answer the following question: Is it rational to become homicidal over a burnt book?


Do you think you can suddenly out of the blue create homicidal madness in someone over burning a book?

Do you think likely they might have been already homicidally mad prior, or can you give me a situation where you would kill over a book?

Thanks!
I don't identify myself as a "liberal" but I'll answer. Who and what are you trying to send a message to by burning the book?, extremists or just Muslims or fellow Americans in general?

If it is to extremists, well yeah they are already hell bent. What about everybody else though? Would I kill over a bible or book? No. I wouldn't burn it either though, what's the point to do so?, because someone in another country that doesn't live under the ideas of America is doing it, burning a flag or calling you a infidel? So what?
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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In Nazi Germany book burning was common as it always is in a country that has lost it's way. Now I see that America is following the Nazi path to self destruction.

Doing this will make America look like early Nazi Germany.........
US church to go ahead with Sept. 11 Quran burning

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – A Christian minister vowed Tuesday to go ahead with plans to burn copies of the Quran to protest the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks despite warnings from the White House and the top U.S. general in Afghanistan that he would endanger American troops overseas.


US church to go ahead with Sept. 11 Quran burning - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100907/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning - broken link)

I'm ashamed of America when I read crap like this.
I'm not siding with this pastor, as I don't agree with what he is doing, but it is his freedom. Just like the freedom of people to burn the American flag. No difference.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Here
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In Nazi Germany book burning was common as it always is in a country that has lost it's way. Now I see that America is following the Nazi path to self destruction.

Doing this will make America look like early Nazi Germany.........
US church to go ahead with Sept. 11 Quran burning

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – A Christian minister vowed Tuesday to go ahead with plans to burn copies of the Quran to protest the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks despite warnings from the White House and the top U.S. general in Afghanistan that he would endanger American troops overseas.

US church to go ahead with Sept. 11 Quran burning - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100907/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning - broken link)

I'm ashamed of America when I read crap like this.
Well, I agree that burning Quarans is bad form. But we will be like Nazi Germany not when Quarans are burned, but when protesting those burnings becomes illegal.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Rockport Texas from El Paso
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BURNING - typo
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:39 PM
 
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Of course you are including yourself in that number because if not, allow me to point out why.



In your above quote you point out that our enemy are "extremist Muslims" which logically allows for the existence of non-extremist Muslims. If the point of NOT burning the Qu'ran in a public pique, then perhaps you might come to understand that the objections are not concerned with offending extremist Muslims but those Muslims we are attempting to keep from joining the ranks of their extremist co-religionist or to avoid offending our Muslim ALLIES!

The concept, as simple as one would think that it would be, isn't to run from the Bullies but to isolate them! If you attack the Bully in such a way as to offend those standing on the sidelines, then the question becomes for them, who exactly is the bully.

GET IT?

(I doubt it)
What you don't seem to GET is that it does not matter whether we burn the Qur'an or not. It obvious that you are willing to sacrifice your freedom in the name of appeasement to a so called "ALLY" that may or may not shoot our troops in the back no matter how many freedoms you give up.
If those Muslim fence sitters are so stupid as to be offended by an idiot burning a book then they are not a worthy ally. The cowardice of your position notwithstanding, I choose not to be afraid to have my fellow Americans legally express their Constitutional rights whether I agree or not.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:41 PM
 
Location: lake zurich, il
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People who keep saying this is the pastor's right, need to inform themselves. In order to do this public burning he needs a permit which he was denied because:

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Interim Fire Chief Gene Prince said Wednesday that the open burning of books is not allowed under Gainesville's burning ordinance.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: Florida city denies permit to a church for planned Quran book burning on Sept. 11 anniversary | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nation/101036399.html#ixzz0yt0fl7m1 - broken link)
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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America's Qu'ran burners are in a great tradition of religious burners. Those who burned Giordano Bruno and Jean d'Arc at the stake, burned witches at the stake, burned the Churches, Synagogs and Temples of numerous religions, burned the sacred texts of peoples even to the point that all such traces of the religion are now gone, who burned Talmuds and Torahs in Europe along with millions of their owners and who burn the cross as a symbol of hate and bigotry. The burning goes on. Gosh ain't you proud that these people are Americans?
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