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Old 09-30-2010, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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FOXNews.com - Pregame Prayers at Pee Wee Football Games Are Out of Bounds, Florida Dad Says
A private, non-government funded, pee-wee football league has a tradition of a voluntary prayer before the game. One parent is fighting to end this practice. His argument is that it should end because the game is being played on city owned football field.
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:59 AM
 
Location: California
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Sounds like a difference of opinion with some legal stuff thrown in. People are like that. Not everything is a "war".
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Sounds like a difference of opinion with some legal stuff thrown in. People are like that. Not everything is a "war".
it is a war and the battle field is the US Courts.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:02 AM
 
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Sounds like a difference of opinion with some legal stuff thrown in. People are like that. Not everything is a "war".
To people that love to right, everything is a war.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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To people that love to right, everything is a war.
I love to write. How do you love to right?
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:11 AM
 
Location: California
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it is a war and the battle field is the US Courts.
It's neither a "war" or a "battlefield" and belittles REAL wars and battlefields. It's a legitimate gripe, or not, and if some dude wants to escalate it via the legal system and have the courts decide...well isn't whats passed off as "freedom" these days? I don't see how following proper procedure can ever be considered a "war".

I don't think this kind of stuff is going to fly anymore. The "war" on Christmas was so mind numbingly retarded that people aren't in a hurry to repeat it.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:27 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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It's neither a "war" or a "battlefield" and belittles REAL wars and battlefields. It's a legitimate gripe, or not, and if some dude wants to escalate it via the legal system and have the courts decide...well isn't whats passed off as "freedom" these days? I don't see how following proper procedure can ever be considered a "war".

I don't think this kind of stuff is going to fly anymore. The "war" on Christmas was so mind numbingly retarded that people aren't in a hurry to repeat it.
Our nation has a freedom of religion. People like the guy above want our nation to be "freedom from religion".
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:45 AM
 
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FOXNews.com - Pregame Prayers at Pee Wee Football Games Are Out of Bounds, Florida Dad Says
A private, non-government funded, pee-wee football league has a tradition of a voluntary prayer before the game. One parent is fighting to end this practice. His argument is that it should end because the game is being played on city owned football field.

Does Fox have a gaggle of stringers whose only job is to scour the country for stories like this? They seem to be the only "network" which finds them. I suppose the purpose is to outrage their base audience.

In any case, this is much ado about nothing and ol' Dad will quickly find out that VOLUNTARY prayer, even on public property, has never been illegal and the Supreme Court has ruled that it's entirely Constitutional. Granted, the league may back down or some lower court may rule against it, but my prediction is that it won't stand up on appeal and the Supreme Court is unlikely to want to visit that issue again.
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Old 09-30-2010, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Does Fox have a gaggle of stringers whose only job is to scour the country for stories like this? They seem to be the only "network" which finds them. I suppose the purpose is to outrage their base audience.

In any case, this is much ado about nothing and ol' Dad will quickly find out that VOLUNTARY prayer, even on public property, has never been illegal and the Supreme Court has ruled that it's entirely Constitutional. Granted, the league may back down or some lower court may rule against it, but my prediction is that it won't stand up on appeal and the Supreme Court is unlikely to want to visit that issue again.
gaggle of stringers? They report such stories because it's the kind of stories their viewers care about while other news networks ignore such stories hoping the father will win his case.
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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FOXNews.com - Pregame Prayers at Pee Wee Football Games Are Out of Bounds, Florida Dad Says
A private, non-government funded, pee-wee football league has a tradition of a voluntary prayer before the game. One parent is fighting to end this practice. His argument is that it should end because the game is being played on city owned football field.


A private organization that does not receive government funding may use public facilities like parks, community centers and soccer fields as they see fit if the same facilities are used by other groups or individuals. A number of cases have arisen over the years in which religious organizations have performed baptisms, weddings, prayed and preached in public parks and community centers. The Free Exercise Clause is clear and applies in these cases. No individual or group may be prohibited from the free exercise of their religion and no religious organization may be treated differently than a non-religious one. An official city league or publicly funded league would run into trouble because of the Establishment Clause, but that is not an issue in this case.
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