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Old 11-29-2010, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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There are photos of melted steel from 911. Google them up yourself.
Actually... this is not true.

There are certainly photos of molten metal. But since you cannot tell what kind of metal it is, to assert it was steel would require something a little more specific... like a metallurgical analysis. No such analysis has been able to identify a single piece of melted or molten steel anywhere in the wreckage of the WTC.

It is simply a fact that no melting of steel would be required to cause the WTC to fail. Any competent engineer knows that the strength of steel falls dramatically as it is heated... well before any melting point is reached.

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If it is proven that Thermite was detected in the wreckage, then who is to say who ever planted explosives in the basement as claimed is not the same evil cretins who did the deed with the jets.
That's a big "if" there. It has been almost a decade now since 9/11. No thermite has been found anywhere in the wreckage...and that ignores that the thermite theory was absurd in the first place. Thermite cannot do what the Truthers insist it did in the WTC.

The thermite theory is as pointless as it is impossible.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Then why do those photos show only partial sections of the supposed cuts of molten metal... entire corners and sections were missed...
Because once the cut is comprehensive enough, gravity does the rest and the beam topples and breaks the final few inches of steel. Ever chop a tree down? You don't have to cut the entire trunk through to bring it down.

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This is indicative of shape charges used along with a thermite application...
It is indicative of neither. The beams were cut weeks if not months after 9/11.
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:39 PM
 
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Because once the cut is comprehensive enough, gravity does the rest and the beam topples and breaks the final few inches of steel. Ever chop a tree down? You don't have to cut the entire trunk through to bring it down.


It is indicative of neither. The beams were cut weeks if not months after 9/11.
Wrong... those shaped cuts were evident the day after it all happened...
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Funny how I haven't seen pictures of that happening...
you havent???

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2001/109-11/ironworkers.jpg (broken link)

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2001/109-11/ironworkers.jpg (broken link)






Sam Hollenshead Photography
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:53 PM
 
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This is indicative of shape charges used along with a thermite application...
Brilliant! There's a great future in demolition for anyone basing their grand scheme on placing high explosives right next to a 4500 degree thermite reaction. What can possibly go wrong?
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:54 PM
 
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Those photos were taken weeks afterwards...
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Old 11-29-2010, 06:55 PM
 
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Brilliant! There's a great future in demolition for anyone basing their grand scheme on placing high explosives right next to a 4500 degree thermite reaction. What can possibly go wrong?
Let's see... an entire building collapsing... Mission Accomplished!!!...
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Wrong... those shaped cuts were evident the day after it all happened...
That is an absolute lie.
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Northeast PA
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Dude, you were busted either quote-mining or falling for it. In the full context, it's obvious that Hamilton and Keane meant to communicate the exact opposite of what you cited them as saying. You're not the first to be taken in by a breitbarted video - take it like a man.
Falling for what? It was admitted that the commission was set up to fail. The top members of this committee came out and said so.

Then a poster chimed in and claimed the comments weren't made at all and after the proof was posted for all to see, tried to make a disingenuous argument that they didn't mean to make the statements that they made.

No need to quote-mine. I have it in black and white and color for you people to absorb whole. So deal with it.

YOUR own government-created, appointed, and taxpayer-funded investigation came out and said as much at one point. Do you really think there was no reason for frustration? Accept the conclusions and everything that led up to them and forget about. That's what govt. wants.

Full context my ass. The government-sponsored investigation was a flat out joke, much like previous ones. But people of YOUR ILK suffer from short-term memory and that is like a a plaque destroying a country.

I guess it takes a man to keep believing in what your government tells you, no matter how corrupted and rotten the institution.
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Old 11-30-2010, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The government-sponsored investigation was a flat out joke, much like previous ones.
If it was such a joke... why is it that people you claim said it was set up to fail claim that it was actually a success?
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