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Old 11-28-2010, 12:14 AM
 
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I don't mind automobile unions,....after all I drive Fords. But the UAW was a driving force in crippling GM

The government is not the solution for our economic woes
The UAW was NOT a driving force in crippling GM. Bad management and a poor line-up was at fault.

And i'm not saying that the government is the sole solution to our economic woes, but they can help. And in this case, thank God they did. The Government certainly the solution for GM, wasn't it?
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:59 AM
 
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Without the Unions, y'all be working 7 days a week, with little pay and no benefits?

Do you morons actually think your company gives you decent wages and benefits, from the goodness of their hearts?

SOMEONE had to bump heads with them, to force them to treat their employees like human beings!?

Steve

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If that was true, then you need to explain to me why companies pay far greater than minimum wage for companies that are non-unionized..
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:01 AM
 
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Why is it any time someone says the word "union" the ignorant right wing fools start jumping around and yelling like apes at the zoo?
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I'd rep you for that one if I could. To answer your question, I suspect it is lack of intelligence and a conditioned Pavlovian response caused by listening to partisan nonsense on on AM radio.
Pot.. meet kettle..
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Really? So they've not done a damn thing good since 1910, huh?
I think you're catching on...! Finally you said something that's true...!
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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Do you see companies like Burger King, Wal-Mart, and McDonalds paying FAR above the minimum wage??
Some non-Union companies have to though, in order to attract qualified employees, with the skill levels that they seek.
Trust me.....they wouldn't pay decent money, if they didn't have to?

Steve
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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Do you see companies like Burger King, Wal-Mart, and McDonalds paying FAR above the minimum wage??
Do you think the skills needed to work at these companies deserve far above minimum wage?
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Some non-Union companies have to though, in order to attract qualified employees, with the skill levels that they seek.
Trust me.....they wouldn't pay decent money, if they didn't have to?

Steve
So through all of this, you admit that its demand that pumps up wages, not unions..
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:18 PM
 
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I'll admit that..............................................

Union jobs will almost always have better BENEFITS, than non-Union jobs.
Better wages also.
AGAIN, the simple Union-bashers owe EVERYTHING they have on their current jobs, to the labor Unions.

Plus, the corporations flocked to Asia like crows, when they saw labor at $5 A DAY with NO benefits and NO safety regs.
Of course, THAT'S the Union-fault too.....IF.....you want to believe the more corporate-friendly posters here on CD?

Steve
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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I'll admit that..............................................

Union jobs will almost always have better BENEFITS, than non-Union jobs.
Better wages also.
Thats simply not true at all..
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AGAIN, the simple Union-bashers owe EVERYTHING they have on their current jobs, to the labor Unions.
Thats not true at all, but I think I see who your god is.. Tell me, do they have a church you attend?
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Plus, the corporations flocked to Asia like crows, when they saw labor at $5 A DAY with NO benefits and NO safety regs.
Of course, THAT'S the Union-fault too.....IF.....you want to believe the more corporate-friendly posters here on CD?

Steve
Corporations flock to asia and other continents to avoid GOVERNMENT.. the saved labor costs are usually mitigated by things like shipping expenses..
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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Do you actually have any PROOF that I'm wrong, Quest?
Or is your blind allegiance to FOX talking points, all the proof that I NEED?

Steve
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:47 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I'll admit that..............................................

Union jobs will almost always have better BENEFITS, than non-Union jobs.
Better wages also.
AGAIN, the simple Union-bashers owe EVERYTHING they have on their current jobs, to the labor Unions.

Plus, the corporations flocked to Asia like crows, when they saw labor at $5 A DAY with NO benefits and NO safety regs.
Of course, THAT'S the Union-fault too.....IF.....you want to believe the more corporate-friendly posters here on CD?

Steve
Don't you just love it how union bashers show their lack of a logic when they blame unions for driving jobs overseas. We'd have to be paying our factory workers here 3 to 5 dollars a DAY to compete on a level playing field. Bashers want to put us on a race to the bottom, make us a 3rd world country instead of finding others ways to deal with the unfair balance of trade coming from countries where life is cheap and workers are grossly taken advantage of.
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