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Typical. Now that this one is clearly one of yours, you give us the left/right has nothing to do with it. You'd be singing a different tune if he attended Tea Party protests.
"I think we all have to take responsibility for our actions and our words. We are a free country and this balance between freedom and safety is one that we have to carefully balance. I saw…I saw this myself in the late seventies in San Francisco. This kind of rhetoric was very frightening and it gave—it created a climate in which violence took place. I wish that we all again would curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made, with the understanding that some of the ears this is falling on are not as balanced as the person making the statement might assume."
- Nancy Pelosi
No, Americans (right and left) are ignorant, gullible meathead chumps.
The question is; Did left-wing sites, like the ones he linked to (media matters, progressivemind) work him into a frothing rage about the rich vs poor culture war? If you look at what he wrote, you will find the same kind of comments on left-wing blogs and you will hear the same kind of comments from dems in congress and obama.
Maybe the dems and obama need to ratchet down the overheated rhetoric about the "rich" taking from the poor, when in fact the "rich" FUND the poor.
The question is; Did left-wing sites, like the ones he linked to (media matters, progressivemind) work him into a frothing rage about the rich vs poor culture war? If you look at what he wrote, you will find the same kind of comments on left-wing blogs and you will hear the same kind of comments from dems in congress and obama.
Maybe the dems and obama need to ratchet down the overheated rhetoric about the "rich" taking from the poor, when in fact the "rich" FUND the poor.
Nothing more inflammatory than what one would see on World Nut Daily.
You really are grasping here. Are you really that steeped in your ideology that it discolors your judgment on every single issue?
Crazies on the Right, crazies on the Left and you know as well as I that the Left, by way of media matters and other rag sites, are very good at pointing the finger at the Right when a person goes "postal".
Slight difference here, since the man actually listed as his "truth" links quite a few sites from the far-left, who have been demagoguing the rich vs poor culture war on a continuous basis. This is also a favorite narrative from obama and the dems.
The proof of that is in the last two weeks of listening to the democrats pit rich against poor in the tax deal debate.
This is a go-to favorite meme of the Left and the dems and you know that to be true.
In fact, if you read what he wrote, you will find a bit of the same on this board from the Left.
Ok, so the left does it to the right and would you like me to go find some posts on a few people where you and many others posted calling it nonsense?
It is nonsense to suggest that Glenn Beck and Fox News influenced Byron Williams? Was it nonsense to point to Jim D. Adkisson's letter as cause? Would it be nonsense to point out Richard Poplawski hung out and cited far right websites as the reasons why he killed three cops?
Let me guess, it is nonsense until a guy cites Media Matters, then its clearly Liberal derangement syndrome?
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Williams says he planned to kill 11 people at Tides, a San Francisco-based foundation that supports progressive causes, to avenge the lives of the 11 men who were killed when the British Petroleum Deepwater Horizon rig exploded in the Gulf in April.
This fruitcake went on to give an interview where he rambled on about how Obama this George Soros that and then cited a variety of places like Infowars, PrisonPlanet, and Alex Jones.
In a later interview Williams would say,
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I would have never started watching Fox News if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind.
Beck "would never advocate violence ... but he'll give you every ounce of evidence that you could possibly need"
So Sanrene, I've done a little digging into this subject and low and behold, I'm not surprised one bit, as many of the usual party partisans gather at threads like this one.
Now you are certainly no different than those on the left who will hold up a single incident and say, "This is what Liberal/Conservative nuts are doing, reading, or taking orders from", but your claims, like their claims mean little when you hold up a single case. Now if you would like to speak towards the statistics due to volume, then we are showing patterns of behavior, not an isolate case.
Personally I love partisan hacks, they are much like watching a Monty Python skit most of the time. Like this one, where folks are looking for a "sign" that tells them what they should believe.
The question is; Did left-wing sites, like the ones he linked to (media matters, progressivemind) work him into a frothing rage about the rich vs poor culture war? If you look at what he wrote, you will find the same kind of comments on left-wing blogs and you will hear the same kind of comments from dems in congress and obama.
Maybe the dems and obama need to ratchet down the overheated rhetoric about the "rich" taking from the poor, when in fact the "rich" FUND the poor.
Now if you would like to speak towards the statistics due to volume, then we are showing patterns of behavior, not an isolate case.
Oh, ok. So now you're saying there is no pattern of violence on the Left, only on the Right?
As you can see, the Left has a habit of trying to link every kook that goes postal to the Right. I just have to ask, are you in any of THOSE threads scolding the Left for the broad brush they use?
I digress, the point IS, this man appears to have been listening/reading the far-left fringe sites like media matters, progressive mind (a fact, actually), reading all the overheated rhetoric on the class war those sites and the dems in congress are engaged in. It appears all that rhetoric might have pushed him over the edge.
It looks pretty cut and dried to me - just look at what he wrote, who he quoted, what he was reading and listening to for the "truth".
I said no such thing, nor have I ever implied as much.
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Now you are certainly no different than those on the left who will hold up a single incident and say, "This is what Liberal/Conservative nuts are doing, reading, or taking orders from", but your claims, like their claims mean little when you hold up a single case. Now if you would like to speak towards the statistics due to volume, then we are showing patterns of behavior, not an isolate case.
There are plenty of cases to hold up, but THIS thread is about one particular case in the news.
What statistics are you referring to?
I might have misconstrued your meaning in the above.
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