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Actually upon further reading, some people are theorizing that the BP oil spill may be contributing to this. Reasoning is that oil prevents the natural heat transfer between thermalclines. In addition to all the oil that was dumped into the gulf stream, there was the dispersant as well.
Now, I have no idea if this has merit or not yet, but the current is slowing, whatever the cause.
That was my first thought when I read the first part of the thread. I find this very interesting. BP causes the oil spill that is miles away from England and seemingly should not cause England any harm except finanacial and then "wallah" it might ending up causing them harm in the end. "What goes around, comes around."
That was my first thought when I read the first part of the thread. I find this very interesting. BP causes the oil spill that is miles away from England and seemingly should not cause England any harm except finanacial and then "wallah" it might ending up causing them harm in the end. "What goes around, comes around."
Now wouldn't that be the irony of the century, karma in its most harsh of forms.
The Woods Hole has some really interesting information on ocean currents and how they effect regional climates through the transference of not only heat but moisture.
They point to salt levels in ocean water which changes the specific gravity as having a major role. An influx of fresh water which is more buoyant will slow the natural flow, which may also give some credibility to the BP role in this as between the oil and dispersant preventing the natural transfer of heat and salts.
Now wouldn't that be the irony of the century, karma in its most harsh of forms.
You know I am not into karma. BUT
How does China figure into this? The sixth chapter of Rev. speaks of it taking a day to earn enough to buy a loaf of bread and then it mentions oil. That just keeps coming back to me. That last book in the Bible is such a mystery to me and used to seem so impossible. Now it just seems like normal living. Could we be living in the sixth chapter. That is the chapter Jesus comes back to earth.
Then there is the prediction that Eastern North Carolina will some day be under water. Global warming would be the way that could happen, but what other ways could that be. We live half way across North Carolina but some day we might have beach front property. I just look and watch and wonder and can do absolutely nothing about it, so I just don't worry about it.
Oh, the prediction about Eastern North Carolina also mentioned Southern Florida as being an island. Sorry I do not have a source. It was something I read in the 80's. I know, I read too much and just remember tidbits as it comes back to me.
How does China figure into this? The sixth chapter of Rev. speaks of it taking a day to earn enough to buy a loaf of bread and then it mentions oil. That just keeps coming back to me. That last book in the Bible is such a mystery to me and used to seem so impossible. Now it just seems like normal living. Could we be living in the sixth chapter. That is the chapter Jesus comes back to earth.
If this is what you wish to see, then this is what you will see.
I see a disruption in the natural ocean currents and a bunch of people scratching their heads as to why.
Since you didn't read the article, as you rarely do, you would have noted this article didn't say it was man made or a natural earth cycle, you just assumed it did. You astute observations on a New York regional weather pattern is quite eloquent, well articulated and beyond the level of technical proficiency I thought you capable of, congratulations.
It is a setup TnHilltopper. It is business as usual.
If you have been keeping up on the science of dispute concerning AGW positions, then you will see all of the key points to which they use in this article to summarize support for it.
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"The sea ice thawing is consistent with the warming we've seen in the last century," notes Spencer, but "we don't know how much of that warming is a natural climate fluctuation and what portion is due to manmade greenhouse gases."
First, the loss of ice is is not consistent with the warming they claim. This is a major assumption based on the foundation of the AGW position, but they state it as a matter of fact when much of the general summary they are making is in contest to the conclusions they are making.
Their "we don't know if it is man made" is simply a balancing statement to make them appear as if they are being objective in evaluation, but as I said, if we are to accept their assumed conclusions in the previous statements, then they can easily step into the anthropomorphic position.
When you want people to get confused and you want to drop the subject of a previous contest, you state your claim as fact, ignore rebuttal, and then begin stacking on new variables suggesting a connection. Keep doing this and pretty soon you have an enormous amount of assumptions that have been concluded improperly that are buried over time under each current assumption of a recent event or prediction and then used as a collection of backing to make a larger claim. It works because there is so many loose correlations that the individual contests get lost in the paperwork leaving one to generally apply their over all conclusion as if it were obvious.
This is a supporting article to which will be used in the future to "claim" that it supports anthropomorphic warming.
You have to read about ALL of the issues in the field to see this is just another setup.
Ocean currents don't change overnight - it takes decades or centuries to see the effect from a particular cause, and this also wouldn't be the first time Europe suffered through some cold weather ("mini ice age"). IOW, there's nothing that connects the potential slowing of the current to anthropogenic global warming.
I recall reading somewhere that prior to one of the recent Ice Ages, what is now England went from having hippos in the Thames to being under a sheet of ice in just 100 years. Glaciation is only slow in grade school text books.
Drive a hybrid, pay more taxes, and drink your own pee and this will all go away!
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