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View Poll Results: Should we repeal Reagancare?
Repeal both Reagancare and Obamacare 5 22.73%
Repeal Obamacare only, I don't care if we continue the cycle 2 9.09%
Keep both, but reform the system to work properly 15 68.18%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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MedLaw.com :: Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act -- EMTALA Full Text

The Emergency medical treatment and active labor act made Emergency care mandatory in this country.

Signed into law in 1986 by the Reagan administration, it made it mandatory for ER's that take federal money to care for anyone and everyone, regardless of their ability to pay.

This means illegal aliens, people with no health insurance, people without a job, anyone and everyone have to be cared for.

Nothing in the bill suggested how to pay for this care, just that it was mandatory. Conservative my ass.

What this created was a back door healthcare system. Hospitals then started charging extra, or giving useless treatment to those with insurance to make up for the loss of caring for those who couldn't pay. This caused insurance companies to raise rates, because now their risk had increased. Meaning more and more people couldn't afford insurance, and then they couldn't pay the hospitals....

You see where this is going right?

So we already have universal healthcare, have since 1986.

My main reason for supporting some kind of universal system, or a paid for minimal care amount by the government for everyone is because of this 1986 law.

If we aren't going to have healthcare reform, if you are for repealing Obamacare in its entirety, then are you for repealing Reagans care as well? If not, you realize it'll just continue to increase insurance costs, which will also increase care costs, and we'll be in the same never ending cycle slowly going down the drain.

I have problems with obamacare, but it did address some problems that were in the system before. In my opinion, it didn't go far enough on reducing costs.

I have no problem with complete repeal of obamacare, but my problem comes in when we continue the stupid Reagancare that caused more problems than Obamacare did, and is the root cause of obamacare in the first place.

Do you favor repeal of both laws?
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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As long as some people have health-care & can afford it, there will votes to repeal both.
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:42 PM
 
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Who ever said that Reagan was a FISCAL conservative?? Personally I would like to fix it... anyone who shows up with NON-LIFE THREATENING illness or SEVERE TRAUMA will have to pay a $500 co-pay... teaches them to actually USE a family practitioner before coming in for common colds, splinters, and the homeless looking for a free night's stay... I don't see the option to FIX them...
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I would say the Emergency Medical Care act would be pointless if we had a Universal System. Fact is, we don't. Even with The new HC Law, there are still going to be 15-20 million uninsured. So that act provides that they can get Emergency Care, which is the most costly and inefficient method of providing for that. But that's where we are at. Immensely better off as a society than we were, but certainly not ideal.
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:48 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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Who ever said that Reagan was a FISCAL conservative?? Personally I would like to fix it... anyone who shows up with NON-LIFE THREATENING illness or SEVERE TRAUMA will have to pay a $500 co-pay... teaches them to actually USE a family practitioner before coming in for common colds, splinters, and the homeless looking for a free night's stay... I don't see the option to FIX them...

WOW....don't like the homeless do we?
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:00 PM
 
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WOW....don't like the homeless do we?
I actually help out at the soup kitchen... but I don't pretend to be blind to the truth either... like liberals like to be... the truth?? They are going burn your eyes...
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I actually help out at the soup kitchen... but I don't pretend to be blind to the truth either... like liberals like to be... the truth?? They are going burn your eyes...
Republicans are blind to the truth if they believe they can just repeal healthcare with nothing else to fill in for it either.

Washington works like this.

Someone passes a bill with lots of stupid stuff in it, just to appease people to get it through. Then someone goes through line by line and fixes all the crap that was in it, to finally come up with a decent system.

Took over 40 years with welfare.
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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I actually help out at the soup kitchen... but I don't pretend to be blind to the truth either... like liberals like to be... the truth?? They are going burn your eyes...
TRUTH
I have read your posts & THEY burn my eyes....

You honestly believe because you help at the soup kitchen that it isn't OK for the homeless to find shelter wherever they can?
So what if they sit in the empty chairs in the ER at night when it may be raining or cold outside.
I have seen them & they don't bother anyone. Do you preach to them while your handing out the food?

Sorry....back to topic.
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:06 PM
 
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Republicans are blind to the truth if they believe they can just repeal healthcare with nothing else to fill in for it either.

Washington works like this.

Someone passes a bill with lots of stupid stuff in it, just to appease people to get it through. Then someone goes through line by line and fixes all the crap that was in it, to finally come up with a decent system.

Took over 40 years with welfare.
Look at post 3 bub.... this guy was the first to say this post needs a FIX it option... not liberals.. THIS guy..
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Look at post 3 bub.... this guy was the first to say this post needs a FIX it option... not liberals.. THIS guy..
You're in congress?
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