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Like anyone would tell the truth about their drug use. You might as well just make people pinky swear not to shoot anyone.
Well, it appears the man charged with the Tucson AZ muders & attempted murders may have lied on his BATFE form 4473. Why was his previous criminal charge not reported by the PCSD to NICS? Why was it enough to have him rejected by the Army but not by NICS? It is a felony to lie on the BATFE form 4473 and a conviction is not a requirement for disclosure.
Funny coincidence that I was watching the documentary "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" yesterday and thought "that Schumer is a real a$$hole". Looks like he still is.
Drugs wasn't the problem...it was his mental status. These people are idiots.
Actually, in Loughner's case, drugs were the catalyst that put him over the edge. He admitted to being a heavy user of marijuana and had been experimenting with acid and other drugs for years. He is an immature psychotic who was predisposed to schizophrenia. Most schizos don't murder - but drugs do make these people much crazier than they otherwise are. Interesting chronology of Loughner's alcohol and drug use history here. Textbook case for schizophrenia:
I had a friend who came from a family where mild mental illness seemed to be a trait among several of them. Not schizophrenia - just odd people. When he began drinking and using marijuana, it put him over the edge - permanently. He lost his self-control and control of his life. Borderline homeless now. Drugs are very dangerous for the young and immature minds/psyches, generally.
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Well, it appears the man charged with the Tucson AZ muders & attempted murders may have lied on his BATFE form 4473. Why was his previous criminal charge not reported by the PCSD to NICS? Why was it enough to have him rejected by the Army but not by NICS? It is a felony to lie on the BATFE form 4473 and a conviction is not a requirement for disclosure.
Schumer on Meet The Press today was discussing information sharing between the Army and the FBI. He said if Loughner had been reported to the FBI who, it appears, would share their information with AZ authorities, he might not have been able to purchase the gun. Schumer also today was discussing limiting the access of ammunition magazines with dozens of bullets. I, personally, can't imagine why any average citizen would want the right to purchase a weapon of this type - unless the country was at war and had been invaded.
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Actually, in Loughner's case, drugs were the catalyst that put him over the edge. He admitted to being a heavy user of marijuana and had been experimenting with acid and other drugs for years. He is an immature psychotic who was predisposed to schizophrenia. Most schizos don't murder - but drugs do make these people much crazier than they otherwise are. Interesting chronology of Loughner's alcohol and drug use history here. Textbook case for schizophrenia:
I had a friend who came from a family where mild mental illness seemed to be a trait among several of them. Not schizophrenia - just odd people. When he began drinking and using marijuana, it put him over the edge - permanently. He lost his self-control and control of his life. Borderline homeless now. Drugs are very dangerous for the young and immature minds/psyches, generally.
Schumer on Meet The Press today was discussing information sharing between the Army and the FBI. He said if Loughner had been reported to the FBI who, it appears, would share their information with AZ authorities, he might not have been able to purchase the gun. Schumer also today was discussing limiting the access of ammunition magazines with dozens of bullets. I, personally, can't imagine why any average citizen would want the right to purchase a weapon of this type - unless the country was at war and had been invaded.
Schumer is singling out our military when that is not the way to go. He should have directed his questions to the municipality in which the suspect had his drug related arrest. The US Army rejected the charged murderer, he was never a military service member. Leave it to gun-banning AWB backers like Schumer to misdirect their finger pointing. Makes on wonder again why DHS Sec. Napalitano considered veterans a homeland security risk. Could Schumer share her opinion?
There is already a CD thread on the magazine debate. Perhaps you will gain some understanding there. Obviously from your statement you have a reactive rather than proactive mindset when it comes to the practice of the 2nd Amendment secured freedoms.
There is already a CD thread on the magazine debate. Perhaps you will gain some understanding there. Obviously from your statement you have a reactive rather than proactive mindset when it comes to the practice of the 2nd Amendment secured freedoms.
A link would be helpful. I cannot determine from the threads on this board which are discussing the magazine. Your condescending tone is duly noted.
I, personally, can't imagine why any average citizen would want the right to purchase a weapon of this type - unless the country was at war and had been invaded.
To wait for that to happen (though that is not the primary or even secondary reason to own firearms, IMO) before purchasing firearms is reactive. To have firearms before they are needed is proactive.
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This idiotic idea, an obvious attempt to milk the emotions of the moment to advance his agenda, doesn't need to be approved by Congress. The ATF already has the authority from Congress to do it and he's requesting that they do.
IF the ATF does (which isn't a sure bet), it would take an act of Congress or a court challenge to overturn it, which could take years, though the usual first step in a court challenge is to ask the judge to put it on hold while the issue is settled, which they normally do.
One would hope the administration is bright enough not to create another problem for themselves, but we'll have to see about that. So far, they haven't shown themselves to be very good at navigating minefields.
As for the large magazine ban? We've been through that before and it didn't kill us. Dumb idea? Yes. Fatal to our democracy or 2nd Amendment rights? No. It's a "feel good" rule which generates a lot of emotion, but is of little or no practical value. The only people inconvenienced by it were those too lazy to change magazines more often on the range or those who felt compelled to riddle the body of that deer with all 30 rounds from a banana magazine instead of one, well-placed shot.
Funny coincidence that I was watching the documentary "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" yesterday and thought "that Schumer is a real a$$hole". Looks like he still is.
Keeps getting elected though,sad isn't it?
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