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Old 01-19-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I've lived in a "poor white area" before and crime was nearly nonexistent. I love the assumption that since I'm white I'm part of the "privileged majority" and the assumption that I must be upper middle class.
I made no such assumption. I haven't given a second's thought to your 'race' nor economic standing.

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I abhor the use of poverty as an excuse for crime.
I abhor the use of 'race' as an excuse for crime. I also abhor crime.

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By the way do you always come off as so arrogant or are you trying really hard now so you'll be super anti-racist man?
Beauty & arrogance are in the eye & mind of the beholder.

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All of your talk of "socio-economic class," why don't you give a precise objective definition of that. What are the parameters of each class, I mean we need objective definitions if we are to use your criteria. The truth is "socio-economic classes" are completely subjective and worthless. What's poor to one is middle class to another.
You make some valid points here. Of course a person making $30,000 in one area will have a different amount of purchasing power than a person making $30,000 in another area.

Do we have an objective definition of 'race'? The truth is 'race' is completely subjective and worthless.

The point is this:

All of the stats that people googled and posted in this thread to support their 'arguments' are useless at best and misleading at worst.

Think of it this way. Researchers find that there is a correlation between the number of drownings in public pools and the amount of ice cream sold by sidewalk venders. Does ice cream cause drowning? Does drowning cause an increase the amount of ice cream sold? Or does a third variable (warm weather) cause more people to swim (and drown) and buy ice cream?

Just because two things are correlated (crime and minorities) does not mean that one causes the other.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I wanted to add a bit more to some calculations after I was talking to my sister this morning. She brought it to my attention that 60% of rapes go unreported. Then on top of that about 2/3rds of all rapes happen within a small span of time(about 9 PM till 3 AM).

So if there are 100,000 rapes a year, then in reality there are about 250,000 rapes a year. Which means between the hours of 9 PM till about 3 AM, there would be on average one rape every 50 seconds in America.

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Old 01-19-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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Did Fatman just call blacks racist for owning guns? Lolz.

It really is funny how Hollyweird *******s embarrass themselves on the national stage so often, and best of all, they don't even realize it.

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It's because most people blasted away with gun violence are minorities. That's what Michael Moore is getting at.
Then maybe we should take guns away from minorities since they don't know how to keep and use them properly?

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I'm white, all of my guns are black. No racism there.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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That's not what I meant. A lot of gun related deaths were caused by racism. Michael Moore did a clip on this topic in The Awful Truth. A lot of unarmed black men were killed with gun violence by the police.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeOaT...x=0&playnext=1

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Did Fatman just call blacks racist for owning guns? Lolz.

It really is funny how Hollyweird *******s embarrass themselves on the national stage so often, and best of all, they don't even realize it.


Then maybe we should take guns away from minorities since they don't know how to keep and use them properly?


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Old 01-19-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: AL
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This circle jerk between Maddow and Moore is pretty funny.

Breitbart.tv » Michael Moore: People Own Guns Because They’re Racist

Moores statements are more racist then his message...Hes a dope!

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Old 01-19-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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That's not what I meant. A lot of gun related deaths were caused by racism. Michael Moore did a clip on this topic in The Awful Truth. A lot of unarmed black men were killed with gun violence by the police.
That's a police problem, not a societal problem. The police need to be better trained in spotting a bad guy vs a good guy.

When thousands of white people start randomly shooting dead black guys then people like Moore would have a valid claim about gun owners being "racist".

Most white gun-owners are responsible people who use the guns for hunting, since the majority of white gun-owners live in small town, rural areas. It's a rite-of-passage for many young American boys.

The majority of black gun owners live in urban cities. Obviously, they're not using the guns to go caribou hunting, are they?
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Here
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That's what I'm asking. I have not seen the clip because of technological failures. I am going by the title of this thread alluding about an insinuation that hefty may have made.
People will listen to Rush Limbaugh. For others it's Michael Moore. Some prefers Glen Beck or Bill O'Reilly and his No-Spin Zone. And where would we be without Keith Olbermann? So why doesn't any quote me? Huh? If folks are going to follow the words and thoughts of others, what's wrong with me being one of those "others"? I've got opinions. I've contemplated social issues.

Here's what I want to see, a thread called Galileo Smith; Dunk Tank Clowns Are Antisemitic, or some such thing. Then we will know beyond any doubt that we really are mindless sheep whose opinions and social views are formed by anyone other than ourselves.
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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This circle jerk between Maddow and Moore is pretty funny.

Breitbart.tv » Michael Moore: People Own Guns Because They’re Racist



Still laughin'............................still laughin'...........OK, I'm done now.


This really raises some important questions.


Do we need a federal anti-lynching law because people won't commit murder if there is a lynching law?

Do people who lynch concern themselves with laws?

In 2011, do we still have a lynching problem?

If everyone had the ability to respond to an attempted lynching with a lynching of their own, wouldn't that solve the problem of lynching?
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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WTF kind of country is that dangerous?
Well if you live in a country where you have next to nothing and even less money, why would people want to rob you or invade your home? They won't get anything. Here in America it is different. There are poeple who actually HAVE things and HAVE money, so they become targets for the thugs.
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Michael Moore fights for the little guy, an advocate of the hard working people out there trying to make ends-meet. He's a good guy


OK, take his fat butt to Denmark and keep him there. I'm sure he'll enjoy the "free" health care your country will provide.
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