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Old 06-29-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
actually most of us understand that its the propaganda from the liberal fascists, that want control of everything
Just so you get your facts straight; fascists are not liberals but are conservatives.
That said, what is wrong with providing affordable healthcare coverage for those that need it?
Casper
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Alrighty then...I have had two major health problems in the last six years...The first was pancreatitis ....Hospitalized and treated immediately. The second was a blocked artery in my heart...Hospitalized and treated immediately. The only thing I ever had to wait for was to get a cyst removed from a finger...I have never had a problem with having a family doctor, and have never had to wait more than a week for any procedure or tests, and being 70 have had lots of them...Blood tests etc are generally done the same day, unless I have to fast.

I have atrial fibrillation and am considering radio ablation...We will see how long I have to wait if my cardiologist decides that it would be wise to do....I'll let you know.

Canada has produced a disproportionately large number of major biomedical breakthroughs. Canadian Medicine: Canada's greatest medical research
B-b-b-but you're CANADIAN!--You can' POSSIBLY know what you're talking about! We Americans are the REAL experts on YOUR health care system.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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So, who should provide health care to people who have no insurance and/or cannot afford the cost?
Medicaid?

Yep, there's already an app for that.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Just so you get your facts straight; fascists are not liberals but are conservatives.
That said, what is wrong with providing affordable healthcare coverage for those that need it?
Casper
No one is providing affordable healthcare.
What the government proposed in obamacare is subsidization of healthcare for some and hikes in premiums for others.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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No one is providing affordable healthcare.
What the government proposed in obamacare is subsidization of healthcare for some and hikes in premiums for others.
Don't forget the penalty if you don't buy the insurance!
Ah yes, forcing Americans to buy something. Not unconstitutional at all!

(Before anyone tries the tired "car insurance" line, if you want to drive a car we want you insured. But the gov't is not forcing you to buy the actual CAR. Hope this helps.)
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Old 06-29-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
fascists are not liberals but are conservatives.
You can repeat that as many times as you wish but that won't make it true.

Fascism is anti-anarchist, anti-communist, anti-conservative, anti-democratic, anti-individualist, anti-liberal, anti-parliamentary, anti-bourgeois, and anti-proletarian.
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Gone
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You can repeat that as many times as you wish but that won't make it true.

Fascism is anti-anarchist, anti-communist, anti-conservative, anti-democratic, anti-individualist, anti-liberal, anti-parliamentary, anti-bourgeois, and anti-proletarian.
MEANING they are against Liberals, as I said. Here is a clue to that might help, who in Spain did the Nazis support, the liberals or conservatives, that will give you the clue you are looking for. Jeeeez
Casper
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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It is very very very expensive.
You have other countries paying $10 or more a gallon for gas because most of that gas costs goes to Socialized medicine. Huge percentages of salaries in other places also go to paying for this kind of expensive care.

Makes no sense to shoot ourselves in the foot like that.
Ummm... usually the higher gas taxes go to fund things like better, cheap mass transit.

You need to educate yourself.
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Old 06-30-2011, 11:38 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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Oh no no... Rich people can still pay out of pocket for better care like he do now... The difference is the luxury of staying ALIVE won't be just for the rich and those in$urance companie$ won't make Huge profit of the backs of americans.


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Medicare covers less and denies more than any other insurance by the way, so you are asking to curse us all.
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Old 06-30-2011, 11:41 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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Don't forget the penalty if you don't buy the insurance!
Ah yes, forcing Americans to buy something. Not unconstitutional at all!

(Before anyone tries the tired "car insurance" line, if you want to drive a car we want you insured. But the gov't is not forcing you to buy the actual CAR. Hope this helps.)
I am forced to buy clothes because there are laws about indecent exposure when unclothed. There are tons of things we are forced to do for the better of ALL AMERICANS. Elitist's need to step off.
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