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Old 02-17-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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What are you talking about? 14th amendment doesn't apply. This is a state issue, not federal. I thought you guys wanted the government to stay out of religion and viceversa? Isn't "marriage" a religious thing? Move to a state if you want to have a gay marriage NOW instead of stamping your feet and shedding so many tears over it. Be big boys and girls, not toddlers.
Equal protection is a federal issue.

All state laws have to comport with it.

Anti-gay marriage laws don't.

Like segregation and miscegenation laws, they will be found unconstitutional. The SCOTUS cannot dodge the question forever.

Civics 101.

And who is "you guys?"

Eliminating gay marriage laws violates neither Free Exercise nor Establishment. In fact, they are probably a violation of the First Amendment as well as the 14th.

I think you don't know the law on this issue very well, junior.

 
Old 02-17-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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Equal protection is a federal issue.

All state laws have to comport with it.

Anti-gay marriage laws don't.

Like segregation and miscegenation laws, they will be found unconstitutional. The SCOTUS cannot dodge the question forever.

Civics 101.

And who is "you guys?"

Eliminating gay marriage laws violates neither Free Exercise nor Establishment. In fact, they are probably a violation of the First Amendment as well as the 14th.

I think you don't know the law on this issue very well, junior.
There is no law on it. It isn't recognized, so that means it isn't illegal nor is it legal. It doesn't EXIST!
 
Old 02-17-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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There is no law on it. It isn't recognized, so that means it isn't illegal nor is it legal. It doesn't EXIST!
Like I said, you seem blissfully unaware of the existence of the equal protection clause.

They probably taught that in Civics class on the same day you missed European geography.
 
Old 02-17-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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It doesn't. If it did, there would be lawsuits all over the place. You know why there aren't? Because it doesn't apply. It doesn't get any more simpler than that junior.

Gosh, every law professor in the country must be secretly gay and part of the conspiracy.

All the judges too.

 
Old 02-17-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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Like I said, you seem blissfully unaware of the existence of the equal protection clause.

They probably taught that in Civics class on the same day you missed European geography.
IT DOES NOT APPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep trying, but you aren't getting anywhere. Where are all the lawsuits????? Come on, explain away!
 
Old 02-17-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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IT DOES NOT APPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep trying, but you aren't getting anywhere. Where are all the lawsuits????? Come on, explain away!

Prove it.

Show me.

Because according to the courts of this country, the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment applies to every law, regulation and rule promulgated by government, state or federal.

That was really the whole point of having it in the Constitution...you know, after the civil war? To stop people like you from making discriminatory laws.

Of course it wasn't effectively enforced until the 1960's, but that's not the law's fault.

It's because of people just like you, people who made the same arguments against Brown v. Board of Education and Loving v. Virginia.

And you will fail in this too, for the same reasons.
 
Old 02-17-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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If they were secretly gay, they would be legislating from the bench like the activists they would be. So your comment makes no sense at all.
According to you, and other people who have no understanding of constitutional law, they already are.

Especially Scalia.
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