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Old 02-22-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Yes, but is your belief based in any kind of fact?

The facts are:

There were numerous red flags that were ignored.

The government will never admit why they were ignored


What's your opinion of the facts? You have already seen mine.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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They are cut from the same cloth. In a less civilized country, they would act just as the Muslim terrorists do.

Interesting.....is that based on any facts?

Would you consider the UK, where the incident in the OP occured, to be a less civilized society?
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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The facts are:

There were numerous red flags that were ignored.

The government will never admit why they were ignored


What's your opinion of the facts? You have already seen mine.
That doesn't necessarily support your assertion.

My opinion is that it was not PCness, but just plain old negligence. For all the PCness that might have been involved, I expect it was tempered by prejudice.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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I didn't know that "muslim" was a racial demographic. If I didn't know better I might just think that you are trying to imply that I'm a racist or bigot. However, fortunately I "obviously" do know better.

That's another reason to not debate with certain people. They tend to shout racist or bigot any time someone engages with them.
Why not just answer the question? Throw any term in the parentheses you want. Does it make any difference why someone gets beat up or who does the beating? Muslims have their reason, some other group has their reason.

Why this continual deflection of the issue?
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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Interesting.....is that based on any facts?
They think the same way.

No matter what their specific belief set is, there is a manner of thinking that is particular to extremists. Among it's traits are:

Religious zealotry
Binary thinking (black and white)
Widespread ignorance
Fear of the Other

Etc. I could go on, but these are some traits shared by extremists.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Why not just answer the question? Throw any term in the parentheses you want. Does it make any difference why someone gets beat up or who does the beating? Muslims have their reason, some other group has their reason.

Why this continual deflection of the issue?
It certainly does make a difference when one group is doing the beating with regularity and the victims are innocent people.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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That doesn't necessarily support your assertion.

My opinion is that it was not PCness, but just plain old negligence. For all the PCness that might have been involved, I expect it was tempered by prejudice.

It doesn't refute it either. As I said, there will never be full disclosure from the government so there isn't much to debate here.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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It doesn't refute it either. As I said, there will never be full disclosure from the government so there isn't much to debate here.
No, actually I would have to admit that it may have been involved.

But mainly I just see the Army trying to make a difficult person just go away, passing the buck, etc. As you said, the red flags were everywhere.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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And one could argue that fanaticism is fanaticism, and it may express itself differently in different contexts.
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They think the same way.

No matter what their specific belief set is, there is a manner of thinking that is particular to extremists. Among it's traits are:

Religious zealotry
Binary thinking (black and white)
Widespread ignorance
Fear of the Other

Etc. I could go on, but these are some traits shared by extremists.
Yep, baseball fans buy shirts with team colors and slogans, and talk loud.

Muslims, cut off noses, hands, ears, stone people to death, fly planes into buildings, blow up themselves and others.

Same thing. Just a different level of extremism.
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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They think the same way.

No matter what their specific belief set is, there is a manner of thinking that is particular to extremists. Among it's traits are:

Religious zealotry
Binary thinking (black and white)
Widespread ignorance
Fear of the Other

Etc. I could go on, but these are some traits shared by extremists.

I like the way you edited the post that you quoted. What's the matter? Why can't you answer that question? Why the deflection?
I also love they way that you assumed that I wasn't intelligent enough to understand what binary thinking is. Thank you for giving me the remedial version. They think the same way? Your reply is very weak. You edit the post because you don't want to answer the question and then you show that this is your opinion and is not based on facts.
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