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Old 05-26-2011, 06:26 AM
 
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That is simply an excuse. There are loans, grants and scholarships available. Most cimmunity colleges are very affordable.

No, seriously, I can't get loand or grants or scholarships and I can't afford community college on a poverty level income.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:29 AM
 
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it's easy to turn up your nose and yell about the poor being lazy and dumb from the comforts of your home, or office on the internet I wonder what the view from your glass house would look like if your job disappeared.

Do people take advantage of the system, YES! But not everyone is home chillin out watching sportscenter on a flat screen while collecting welfare. There are people working 2, 3, and 4 jobs to make ends meet and dig themselves out of unexpected financial circumstances. It's kinda sad to see the distrust and lack of compassion people have for others. Life isn't easy these days for a lot of people and countless Americans are a paycheck away from the poor house. Don't get too comfortable thinking it couldn't happen to you
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:48 AM
 
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does bad thing happen...sure an we(the people) can give a helping hand UP

but to sit there and not find a job, not be willing to take the jobs that are available, because you will have to give up your welfare, is wrong

not being willing to IMPROVE yourself, then your destine to stay poor

many, many 'poor' people have gone on, gotten educations, worked their way from the bottom, to be productive leaders

followers choose to stay poor...leaders find a way of getting out of the hole.

its your choice....lead the way to prosparity...or follow the easy welfare path to eternal poverty...your choice...choose well
Necessity, as they say, is the mother of invention. It is also a great motivator. Out of necessity to feed themselves and their families men and women have found or created opportunities for self-advancement that otherwise would not have existed for them. Character is molded in the crucible of adversity. You talk about "people" giving the poor a hand up. By that I take you mean government. The problem with government handouts is that government is ill-equipped to make the kinds of judgments about people that may cause welfare to become less of a hand up than an obstacle to self advancement. It has traditionally been families and churches that have made those kinds of judgments. But government has supplanted those organic institutions, thereby isolating people from each other. As is often the case the most lethal words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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No, seriously, I can't get loand or grants or scholarships and I can't afford community college on a poverty level income.
That doesn't add up. There is plenty of student aid for poor students. I've been there. Worked 3 jobs and had loans. If you want it, it can be done.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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it's easy to turn up your nose and yell about the poor being lazy and dumb from the comforts of your home, or office on the internet I wonder what the view from your glass house would look like if your job disappeared.

Do people take advantage of the system, YES! But not everyone is home chillin out watching sportscenter on a flat screen while collecting welfare. There are people working 2, 3, and 4 jobs to make ends meet and dig themselves out of unexpected financial circumstances. It's kinda sad to see the distrust and lack of compassion people have for others. Life isn't easy these days for a lot of people and countless Americans are a paycheck away from the poor house. Don't get too comfortable thinking it couldn't happen to you
But you see, my job won't disappear. And jobs for folks with skills will not go away. Make sound choices, work hard and you'll have a decent life.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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No, seriously, I can't get loand or grants or scholarships and I can't afford community college on a poverty level income.
join the military
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Poor is a state of mind more so than finances.
Its easier to change your finances than your poor state of mind.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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join the military
Excellent suggestion. The military is very generous with their education benefits.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Southern Ontario
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Its obvious that those who are critical and disdainful of those struggling, are quite comfortable in the saddle of their high horse. And they are never going to change their minds, until they fall off that horse.
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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That is simply an excuse. There are loans, grants and scholarships available. Most cimmunity colleges are very affordable.
...which you obviously haven't attended.

Grants and scholarships are increasingly hard to get. I can't afford any more tuition loans. Without a grant, I cannot return to school.
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