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WI Governor (King) Scott Walker pronounced the Capitol, a public building, off limits to protesters. In effect Walker was trying to silence the 1st amendment rights of the citizens of WI. However, a judge ruled otherwise!
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The move to limit access was slammed by protesters, Democratic lawmakers and civil liberties advocates.
In a letter Monday, the American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin urged DOA Secretary Michael Huebsch to open the statehouse to the public. "Prohibiting protestors on either side of the debate from entering the Capitol during normal business hours or during legislative hearings or sessions, while allowing others with 'business' in the Capitol to enter, is manifestly content-based and, hence presumptively unconstitutional," read the letter.
WI Governor (King) Scott Walker pronounced the Capitol, a public building, off limits to protesters. In effect Walker was trying to silence the 1st amendment rights of the citizens of WI. However, a judge ruled otherwise!
the article said that as Assembly Official (Sgt at Arms) imposed the restrictions. I saw nothing about the Governor imposing the restrictions. However, I am sure if a mob started over-running the judges chambers, he would do exactly what the people in charge of the Wisconsin Capitol did, and properly so.
You seem to be in favor of mob-rule, or am I reading you wrong. Also, being in a particular building is NOT a 1st Amendment Right. You should review it, as it preserves the right of speech, press and religion. Infesting public buildings at will is not included, directly, indirectly, or by fanciful mal-interpretation.
the article said that as Assembly Official (Sgt at Arms) imposed the restrictions. I saw nothing about the Governor imposing the restrictions. However, I am sure if a mob started over-running the judges chambers, he would do exactly what the people in charge of the Wisconsin Capitol did, and properly so.
You seem to be in favor of mob-rule, or am I reading you wrong. Also, being in a particular building is NOT a 1st Amendment Right. You should review it, as it preserves the right of speech, press and religion. Infesting public buildings at will is not included, directly, indirectly, or by fanciful mal-interpretation.
Consider your post slapped-... corrected.
I am in favor of public opinion and the right to practice free speech to express these opinions.
FYI,the capitol is the peoples' building, not the governor's.
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Next Walker and his legislative allies engineered a scheme to close the Capitol, which has traditionally been one of the most open and accessible in the nation, to citizens who want to protest against the bill. While a handful of protesters remained inside the building, hundreds of union members and their allies sought access to the Capitol but were denied.
"I am disappointed in Governor Walker's decision to block the public's access to their state Capitol," said state Rep. Mark Pocan, a Madison Democrat. "I want to assure my constituents that I will not allow Governor Walker to limit your access to my office."
the article said that as Assembly Official (Sgt at Arms) imposed the restrictions. I saw nothing about the Governor imposing the restrictions. However, I am sure if a mob started over-running the judges chambers, he would do exactly what the people in charge of the Wisconsin Capitol did, and properly so.
You seem to be in favor of mob-rule, or am I reading you wrong.
You're either reading wrong, or want to make a straw man argument here.
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Also, being in a particular building is NOT a 1st Amendment Right. You should review it, as it preserves the right of speech, press and religion. Infesting public buildings at will is not included, directly, indirectly, or by fanciful mal-interpretation.
Consider your post slapped-... corrected.
A swing and a miss.
The First Amendment covers more than simply speech. Any behavior can be expression, and expression is protected - particularly political expression, which can include peaceably demonstrating in a public building.
Moreoever, you left out the part about the right of people to peaceably assemble.
it's an easy argument to make that moving protester's away from the center of the action is an infringement on their rights to speech and assembly. There are reasons you could exclude people, or course, but I've heard none o them voiced here.
Actually, this is what true Democracy, or what the founders called "mob rule" and were very much against, warned us about, looks like. That is why we have a Representative Republic.
The concept of a public building being the "people's building" is quaint and has, at an ethereal level, great meaning, but it doesn't mean that it can be infested at-will by any manner of horde, interferring, most deliberatly, in the conduct of the people's business.
That fact that this difference is not apparent in your post is disturbing. Hopefully, not very many Americans are in favor of this sort of mob-rule.
Would you be in favor of a mob of "right wingers" doing the same thing to the White House? Or the Senate Chambers?
Actually, this is what true Democracy, or what the founders called "mob rule" and were very much against, warned us about, looks like. That is why we have a Representative Republic.
The concept of a public building being the "people's building" is quaint and has, at an ethereal level, great meaning, but it doesn't mean that it can be infested at-will by any manner of horde, interferring, most deliberatly, in the conduct of the people's business.
That fact that this difference is not apparent in your post is disturbing. Hopefully, not very many Americans are in favor of this sort of mob-rule.
Would you be in favor of a mob of "right wingers" doing the same thing to the White House? Or the Senate Chambers?
Within the bounds of the law? Why not?
I think you need to take off your partisan goggles once in a while.
The vagrants ought to be arrested for trespassing. If you're in there after-hours you are breaking the law.
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