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Old 03-02-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The first five books of the Bible, which include Deuteronomy, are the Torah. If you knew anything about religion, you would have known that.

I did address the scripture specifically. Again, if you understood anything about this topic, you would have seen that.
I know they are adapted from Torah. But, are you claiming that the verse, you responded to, does not exist in the Bible?
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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We elected those guys for a reason. If you don't like it, you've got 49 other choices...unless you are President Obama...then you have 56 other choices.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I hope they ban Christian law along with Sharia Law. Both laws are practically the same: antiquated and boorish.
Technically, that has happened in Oklahoma. The banning of Sharia Law based on the excuse of it being an “international law” founded on foreign land, makes the Ten Commandments illegal.

Since I am not a Sharia Law scholar, unlike a boat load of scholarly folks at C-D and elsewhere who make it a point to discuss the law with such passion and zeal, I looked up a few of the laws and chuckled. Here are a few of such restrictions that we can look forward to, criminalized/made illegal. Tennessee…

1- Will be making praying five times a day illegal. My family gets pretty close to it, considering that they pray before every meal, and at least once after reading the Bible. Are churches going to be put on a watch to make sure that they either exceed or stay below the five-prayer law in a day?

2- Will be banning personal visit and prayer to the sick, because it is a part of Sharia law.

3- Will be making it unlawful to claim/give any property ownership to God because, Sharia, while recognizing private and community property, also assumes that it all ultimately belongs to God.

4- Will be making it illegal to give child custody to the mother under any circumstances unless the child is older than eight, because it is a requirement in Sharia.

5- Will be making it illegal to invoke any notion of sin, because Sharia opposes violations against God any law opposing Sharia must support such violations.

6- Will be promoting sale of liquor and opening up of casinos. Banning or restricting them would be supporting Sharia.

And I will look forward to all of this.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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We elected those guys for a reason. If you don't like it, you've got 49 other choices...unless you are President Obama...then you have 56 other choices.
I prefer to stay myself, and purge the religious bigotry that exist in order to provide for a better future for the next generation.

Not to do so may very well end in some coastal egalitarian liberal wanting to pass a law that says Mennonite women cannot wear the clothing they do, or that the Amish must abandon horse and buggies because it is a danger to hwy traffic.

As someone who is generally pretty hard on religious people in general, I also realize that many kids have food in their bellies and shoes on their feet, be they Christian, Muslim or Jew, because of religious beliefs. While I may not share them, I will stand up for the rights of others to practice their own beliefs as long as it is within the law that is prescribed to everyone as provided in the United States Constitution.

I vote for leadership for the reason of finding 'reason' among the leadership that understands the Constitution and the law, not because we should favor one group over another groups religious freedoms that are within the law.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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We elected those guys for a reason. If you don't like it, you've got 49 other choices...unless you are President Obama...then you have 56 other choices.
You elected them to make laws established in foreign lands illegal? I can support you on that, if you would admit that Ten Commandments cannot be claimed as the basis of US laws. It would be illegal, after all!

But more importantly, why do you support the idea of outlawing the visits and praying for the sick?
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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You elected them to make laws established in foreign lands illegal? I can support you on that, if you would admit that Ten Commandments cannot be claimed as the basis of US laws. It would be illegal, after all!

But more importantly, why do you support the idea of outlawing the visits and praying for the sick?
US law has absolutely nothing to do with the ten commandments. US law is based upon English Common Law, which in turn was based upon Roman Law. Nice attempt at a diversionary tactic, but it fails.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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I know they are adapted from Torah. But, are you claiming that the verse, you responded to, does not exist in the Bible?
They are not "adapted." They may be mistranslated in some cases.

Read my post again. See if you can figure it out.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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US law has absolutely nothing to do with the ten commandments. US law is based upon English Common Law, which in turn was based upon Roman Law. Nice attempt at a diversionary tactic, but it fails.
Oklahoma targeted Sharia Law using the following proposals where a judge cannot:
1- Consider Islamic Law for judgment.
2- Consider an international law for judgement.

While the first of the two is in violation of the first amendment (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof), it is the second one that is amusing. Unless you believe Ten Commandments doesn't fit the premise of an international law? Consequently, the Ten Commandments cannot be used in court to justify anything. It would be illegal to do so.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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They are not "adapted." They may be mistranslated in some cases.

Read my post again. See if you can figure it out.
No I couldn't. You babbled about Torah, nothing that addressed the verse directly. Are you saying the Bible has a mistranslation and hence incorrect?
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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The article says that they are concerned about certain extreme practices of Sharia Law, not all of it. My thought is that those practices are already illegal, so there is no real point to additional legislation.
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