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Old 03-08-2011, 07:38 AM
 
Location: South East
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The members of Congress couldnt even read the bill before it was passed. What makes you think the public could?
Thank you for answering the stupid question directed to me. I thought it shold be pretty obvious, but you know how the lefties are. I am so sick of the idiotic deflecting and trying to turn the blind eye coming from the left.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The members of Congress couldnt even read the bill before it was passed. What makes you think the public could?
Its in the bill is it not?

If you can't understand the wording, then its still not "hiding it" or slipping in the back door, or lying to the American people, its still there.

Republican congressmen can read, right? Why didn't they bring it up when it was on the floor?
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Thank you for answering the stupid question directed to me. I thought it shold be pretty obvious, but you know how the lefties are. I am so sick of the idiotic deflecting and trying to turn the blind eye coming from the left.
Its not a stupid question, how is it hiding when its in the bill. I can't help that you don't understand the words.

If I were a Republican, I'd be even more disturbed by the Republican congressmen I voted for who didn't understand the words when it was up for a vote.

Generally, when someone says a question is stupid, its because they don't have a good answer.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: South East
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Its in the bill is it not?

If you can't understand the wording, then its still not "hiding it" or slipping in the back door, or lying to the American people, its still there.

Republican congressmen can read, right? Why didn't they bring it up when it was on the floor?
Case and point.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:42 AM
 
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Its in the bill is it not?
I dont know if its in the bill... I'm unaware of the section being discussed which has the $100B expense attached to it..
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If you can't understand the wording, then its still not "hiding it" or slipping in the back door, or lying to the American people, its still there.

Republican congressmen can read, right? Why didn't they bring it up when it was on the floor?
Nancy Pelosi herself said you couldnt find out what was in it until she passed it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

And the GOP DID bring it up.. Democrats didnt care.. and you know this..
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:44 AM
 
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Its not a stupid question, how is it hiding when its in the bill. I can't help that you don't understand the words.

If I were a Republican, I'd be even more disturbed by the Republican congressmen I voted for who didn't understand the words when it was up for a vote.

Generally, when someone says a question is stupid, its because they don't have a good answer.
It was a stupid question.. Everyone who's followed the topic knows they didnt produce the bill until what, the night before it was passed.. Is it your contention that you can properly read, comprehend 2,000+ pages, analize the full results, the costs associated with it, etc in less than a day?

Seriously... thats your argument?
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The CBO projected increased costs because of Obama care.. do you really want people to check with the CBO?
The price of HC has more than doubled since 2001. Let's hope the bill will slow it down some. The bill being a never ending discussion in 2009, so if you didn't familiarize yourself with the topic, then there is only yourself to blame.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Thank you for answering the stupid question directed to me. I thought it shold be pretty obvious, but you know how the lefties are. I am so sick of the idiotic deflecting and trying to turn the blind eye coming from the left.
Why would I, and several other people I know, have been able to read the Bill before it was passed, and others couldn't? I have always wondered about that.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Was it in the bill? Could people read the bill before it was law?

Its not hiding anything.
The $105B was in the bill. How many hours did the Congress persons have to read the whole 2900 pages of the bill before they voted on it? How many Republicans voted yea? The Dems did prove that they could pass something like that without any Republican votes, though.

Your question about reading that thing before the vote is one of the silliest questions I have ever seen. Of course, we all know that 2900 pages is more than the fastest speed reader could read and comprehend in the amount of time given.

The $105.5 billion was discovered in there about 2 weeks before the election of 2010 but of course it wasn't deeply embedded and hard to find.

I guess you don't know about the slush funds this thing created for Kathleen Sebelius to spend and one of them didn't establish a set amount. You are having lots of trouble seeing what was done to us.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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A phony number that pisses off Right Wing radicals.
Where is your proof of the phoniness of that number? I will accept the words of the Congressional Research Service before accepting your words. Theirs has some proof and yours have your words.
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