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With regard to turbines, if the argument against it is based on aesthetics, then it's not a great one. Sooner, rather than later, we'll have to support more renewable energy (solar, wind, hydro, geothermal) simply because it's the best clean energy source we have.
With regard to turbines, if the argument against it is based on aesthetics, then it's not a great one. Sooner, rather than later, we'll have to support more renewable energy (solar, wind, hydro, geothermal) simply because it's the best clean energy source we have.
The best clean energy source for the future is nuclear power using gas cooled reactors. The rest, except geothermal, collect energy and do not supply reliable 24/7 power.
The best clean energy source for the future is nuclear power using gas cooled reactors. The rest, except geothermal, collect energy and do not supply reliable 24/7 power.
I agree. I/m sure there is a lot of fear mongering going on in the media lately with the Japan crisis, but people need to remember the media are not really experts on anything, so taking their word for gospel isn't good. Second, Japan sits on one of the most active faults in the world, the U.S. does not. We have 46 states that are not subject to earthquakes and tsunamis so that equals potentially, 46 states where nuclear power will be safe to use. And also, spent nuclear rods CAN be reused, it's just cheaper mining new uranium ores out of the ground
With regard to turbines, if the argument against it is based on aesthetics, then it's not a great one. Sooner, rather than later, we'll have to support more renewable energy (solar, wind, hydro, geothermal) simply because it's the best clean energy source we have.
People who live near the wind turbines would disagree with you due to the amount of "sound polution" they generate..
Well the ancients were dictator monarchies that if the people would have said they didn't like the pyramid skyline, they'd be slaughtered.
Would you like to go back to that kind of government?
I support wind energy and turbines, BTW. Just put them where the land owner sells the land, and where regulation permits. But its not a bad thing to say you don't want to look at them, thats freedom of speech.
The best clean energy source for the future is nuclear power using gas cooled reactors. The rest, except geothermal, collect energy and do not supply reliable 24/7 power.
Best? As our planet begins to glow in the dark some may argue that point. Financially, they are illogical to all except GE and Seimens. They take 10 years to complete, have 100% cost over run and when your electric bill goes up 400% I think you might change your mind about them.
Then When you realize that they cost from $10- $20B and how many homes could be converted to solar or wind you realize they just make no sense. They are designed to earn large power companies massive sums while they get tax payer support.
I would gladly convert and go off the grid. I have no desire to add to the pockets of utility companies.
As to the noise from Windmills.... I never heard them in Germany and they are everywhere... but there are more compact versions too.
The cost of a kilowatt from a nuke starts at $6000.... no nuke has been produced without 100% cost over run ( it takes 10 years to build so that makes sense) So you can bet upon completion you are looking at $12,000/ kw.... compared to $3-4000 for the wind link above...
Cost of a nuke 10,000,000,000 (probably a lot more than this)
10B / 17500 = 571,428 helix windmills could be erected generating upto 2.571 million kw of power.... Not taking into reduced costs from mass construction. This would power over 1 million homes, ...no monthly electric bills.
average monthly bill $150 = 9,800 new wind mills funded every month.
Solar with the advances is seeking to produce power for 2 cents/ watt or $20/ kw x 29 ( ave use / day) = $580 / home - todays cost is around $20,000 so you can see how much efficiency of scale can be achieved. Give it a cost of $2500 / home and you can power 4 million homes for the cost of a single plant... with no monthly electric bills.
4,000,000 x 150 = 600,000,000 monthly savings, enough to make solar for another 240,000 homes.
These are the numbers for only 2 sources of renewable power compared to a nuke.
That doesn't take into account of the nuclear disaster costs. there have been 10 accidents that cost over $300,000,000 in property damage. 5 were in the US. if a windmill falls and kills a person... that is one person when a nuke fails ..... ( chernobl killed an estimated 1,000,000) 1660 sq miles have been irradiated. that is over 1 million acres. that is larger than Rhode Island
Windmills only work 17% of the time. They are a waste of time and money.
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