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Once again, the discussion isnt about pregnancy, its about terminating one..
never came close to saying they are, I'm simply pointing out that you want to use "biology" as a terminology in a discussion that has nothing to do with "biology".. There is nothing about killing a baby in relationship to a normal life stage of humans.
I havent said one word for, or against abortion, you arent doing a very good job at this, and once again, abortions have nothing to do with sexual behavior of women, its a cause and effect, and abortion doesnt control sexual behaviors unless you think people will stop having sex if abortion was banned.
I did no such thing, I simply attacked the stupidness of thinking that aborting a baby is being responsible..
Actually attacking the personal responsibility argument is the topic of the thread. It was brought up by an anti conservative.
Your answer is just as dumb the 4th time you've said it because abortions have nothing to do with the life process of a human. Why cant you recognize how dumb that statment is?
Like I said, you need a boogieman strawman argument, unless you can present to me where there has been a bill proposed to outlaw abortion..
No you havent, because abortions are NOT a biological stage of being human
ok, so now we're getting somewhere, personal responsibility = garbage.. I guess this makes your previous statement that having an abortion is responsible.. garbage... I agree
No you havent
Sorry, thats not an option. Thats like suggesting that murdering a child is being responsible, oh wait, you already did that..
Now this is very simple if preborn are given equal protection under the 14th amendment if this law passed this would make abortion illegal and murder and a violation of the constitutional rights o preborn human persons.
does a woman have the right to say what a man does with his body? no they don't. a man has no right either to what a woman does with hers.
this has nothing to do with a woman controlling a man's quality of life. your spin doesn't work
if a man doesn't want a child he needs to make sure he doesn't have one. period. how easy is that. as I said unlike a woman, "after the fact" abortion is not an option for him.
yes, by garnishing his paycheck and extorted unearned income from the male, she is controlling his body. I wouldn't have a problem if the man actually had a say in the child's life, but let's face it, father's are never equal. like I said, you don't believe in the right to choose. no spin here.
yes, by garnishing his paycheck and extorted unearned income from the male, she is controlling his body. I wouldn't have a problem if the man actually had a say in the child's life, but let's face it, father's are never equal. like I said, you don't believe in the right to choose. no spin here.
ye you are spinning. a man makes a child or when a woman has a baby they are responsible for it. either together, or as individuals. period. many men get women pregnant and are never seen or heard from again, never paying child support even when ordered by law. so yes when the government can get support from a dead beat dad (even if he never wanted to be a dad) he should pay. the "choice" was his when he did not use birth control.
Still waiting for that bill to outlaw abortion to be presented by you.. This one surly isnt it..
the third world mentality of law makers trying to outlaw abortion are doing it in a round about way by all the bills they introduce. they know outlawing outright would be a huge uphill battle so they are attempting to chip away the right. keep your blinders on if you think that isn't true
the third world mentality of law makers trying to outlaw abortion are doing it in a round about way by all the bills they introduce. they know outlawing outright would be a huge uphill battle so they are attempting to chip away the right. keep your blinders on if you think that isn't true
No, that bill if passed would be an outright ban on abortion, there is no roundabout way of that bill.
If preborn persons are given equal protection under the law, that means it is illegal to end that preborn person's life.
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