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I would like for people who cherish freedom to realize that exercising those freedoms come with responsibilities and that people really need to think about the consequences of their actions before engaging in stupid publicity stunts that will predictably lead to a bad outcome.
Key words = "freedoms come with responsibilities" and "stupid publicity stunts".
That's what I would hope for but, realistically, I know there are too many asshats in the world to ever expect it.
Maybe no one has said this yet but I hear you. You have said your piece and I agree but no one can or should take his rights away no matter how bad you think they are or how bad you hate what they did.
The SC recently upheld the rights of the Westboro Church under freedom of speech. I do not like them but they have their rights.
It’s not "us" just one religious extremist who gets messages from god. Certainly he has the right, so does Reverend Phelps but the sooner they both shut up the better life will be for all.
I don't like it either and they are being censured but if we try to take away their rights, we will actually be taking away OUR rights.
My Momma told me long ago that it takes all kinds to make the world go around and that is a fact.
The Muslims are more crazy than Pastor Jones. Jones hasn't harmed anybody, but the Muslims seam to have no problem taking the lives of others. Are Muslims even human? Can they not see how barbaric they are?
Maybe no one has said this yet but I hear you. You have said your piece and I agree but no one can or should take his rights away no matter how bad you think they are or how bad you hate what they did.
The SC recently upheld the rights of the Westboro Church under freedom of speech. I do not like them but they have their rights.
Again you have made your point, so what now?
My stance and your stance are the same. You asked me what else I wanted. I answered........
My stance and your stance are the same. You asked me what else I wanted. I answered........
That is why we are friends.
I do not want to be presumptuous but I do not think you have stated what you really want. I think you are like Strel and others who would like to see some punishment dolled out for perceive irresponsibility the same as you would do with a child that disobeyed, am I right?
So many on here are saying Jones had the right but yet they want to shut him up.
If you are in the military, are you not there to fight for your and our freedoms?
Should we be bullied into silence by extremists Muslims under the threat of MURDER? I say HELL NO!!! But that is just my opinion.
Yes, as I and many others have said multiple times, just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should. I have the right to mock a handicapped person that doesn't mean I should (or would) do it. We aren't being bullied into silence by the extremists, we're fighting them everyday over there under the DIRECT threat of murder. So why are civilians back in their safe homes in the States doing things to make them even more enraged making the fight escalate that much more for troops over there than it already is when said civilians don't have to deal with the DIRECT consequences of their actions like the troops do? Yes, yes, they have a right to, but you'd think they'd care enough about the consequences for the troops over there now to not do anything unnecessary like burning this book was. There was no point to it except to earn him publicity. There is a way to use your rights to get your point across without doing what the pastor did.
Also you mention the extremist Muslims, yes they are the ones we are already fighting and working on NOT allowing them to get away with this kind of stuff. The ones we already know will resort to using this as an excuse to further murder people. However, maybe as a civilian this doesn't occur to you but our job over there isn't just to get rid of the extremists, it's also to work with the civilian population who are NOT extremists over there in such a way as to bring them on our side so they do NOT become a part of the extremists' side in the future and make more enemies for us. So hopefully we won't have another incident like 9/11. By doing something as unnecessary as this pastor did, it's only making them see us as the enemy. This book means a lot to them, a lot more than people who don't believe in it can understand. They aren't extremists, they don't murder, they live ordinary lives in their villages, but this book still means the world to them. Next time said extremists come to their village in order to try and get some civilians to join them, those people who were hurt by what the pastor did may start to think these extremists have a point, esp. those who are younger and more impressionable which is exactly who they're seeking out because they know they can smooth talk them. We don't need more enemies.
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Did you not say and is it not true that our military in Afghanistan is supporting Karzai and wasn't it Karzai who stirred the pot?
Our relationship with Karzai has clearly been rocky. Don't you think people in the military tried to reason with him just as they tried to reason with the pastor? This isn't an easy struggle we find ourselves in and just as the pastor was in the wrong, so was Karzai.
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