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Old 04-20-2011, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Between Seattle and Portland
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Wow! This article details what might happen when you get pulled over by a cop in Michigan who, after checking your license and registration, asks to see your cell phone. You hand it over, thinking no big deal.

Even if you're not suspected of any crime, the cop might then use a "data extraction" device without your knowledge or consent that has the power to download ALL personal information from your cell phone in SECONDS: call history, text messages, contacts, videos, GPS data, pictures, and even hidden and DELETED data.

And it really is a universal tool. The firm says UFED works with 3,000 cell phone models, representing 95 percent of the handset market. Coming soon, the firm says on its website: "Additional major breakthroughs, including comprehensive iPhone physical solution; Android physical support – allowing bypassing of user lock code, (Windows Phone) support, and much more." For good measure, UFEC can extract information from GPS units in most cars.

Red Tape - Gadget gives cops quick access to cell phone data

Evidently this device has been in use for some time in dozens of countries. My question is, now that I've heard about it, how can a police officer download anything from your phone when you get pulled over if they aren't allowed to look in your car trunk?

The Fourth Amendment is supposed to protect us from unreasonable searches and seizure, isn't it? What happens if you refuse to hand over your phone?
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That's why my phone and laptop are encrypted w/ an AES-256 bit encryption for access & voice. They may be able to eventually break it, but not there, and not right away either.

now if I could only find a way to have something uploaded as a "security" measure if data/pictures or other values are attempted to be "forcibly" removed. now that would be nice.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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I am caught up in why a cop would ask for your phone.....as I have never heard of that happening.....???




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Wow! This article details what might happen when you get pulled over by a cop in Michigan who, after checking your license and registration, asks to see your cell phone. You hand it over, thinking no big deal.

Even if you're not suspected of any crime, the cop might then use a "data extraction" device without your knowledge or consent that has the power to download ALL personal information from your cell phone in SECONDS: call history, text messages, contacts, videos, GPS data, pictures, and even hidden and DELETED data.

And it really is a universal tool. The firm says UFED works with 3,000 cell phone models, representing 95 percent of the handset market. Coming soon, the firm says on its website: "Additional major breakthroughs, including comprehensive iPhone physical solution; Android physical support – allowing bypassing of user lock code, (Windows Phone) support, and much more." For good measure, UFEC can extract information from GPS units in most cars.

Red Tape - Gadget gives cops quick access to cell phone data

Evidently this device has been in use for some time in dozens of countries. My question is, now that I've heard about it, how can a police officer download anything from your phone when you get pulled over if they aren't allowed to look in your car trunk?

The Fourth Amendment is supposed to protect us from unreasonable searches and seizure, isn't it? What happens if you refuse to hand over your phone?
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:18 PM
 
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I would never in a million years hand my cell phone over to a cop if he asked for it in a traffic stop.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Nor would I.....it is license, reg and proof of...........nothing else.
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I would never in a million years hand my cell phone over to a cop if he asked for it in a traffic stop.
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:05 PM
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Balls
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:54 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I would never in a million years hand my cell phone over to a cop if he asked for it in a traffic stop.
And i surely can uderstand why! However if asking you for your cell and you refuse, isn't that just cause for a punk cop, to haul someone's butt in.
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, USA
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^ Then you sue for unlawful detention, false arrest, etc.
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Old 04-22-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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However if asking you for your cell and you refuse, isn't that just cause for a punk cop, to haul someone's butt in.
They need probable cause and denying them permission is not probable cause.
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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do not hand your phone over. Civil liberties. The conservatives do not understand this. They will use the old if you have nothing to hide argument.
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