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Old 04-20-2011, 07:01 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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HIS POLICIES are exacerbating high gas prices.

But this is what he wants. Remember his comment that higher gas prices are the ideal, as long as they rise slowly so people have a chance to adapt?
BULL! Just HOW are HIS policies affecting the voracious greed of speculators that's existed for many years?

This is just more typical whiny-righty hypocrisy. They champion free-markets, cutting spending, less government,etc. except when it affects them. Then it's , WHY doesn't the government do something? Bunch of cry babies who want to have their cake and eat it too.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:02 AM
 
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Oil prices are set on the open market. What's the matter? The right NOW going to whine for MORE government interference or just another sham excuse to blame Obama for something he has no causal relationship with?

This.

Also I would like to know what policies he has supported that encourages high gas prices, I must have missed that.

I remember that gas was much higher in 2005 than it is now. I did pay over $5 a gallon at that time (after hurricanes Katrina and Rita) and so where prices are right now are no big deal IMO.

Hopefully it will make people consider their vehicles or to take public transportation or actually to *gasp* walk somewhere sometimes.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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higher energy prices are no one's goal. this is an obvious side effect of printing money. global investors run like hell from paper currencies, not just the dollar, and energy / gold / metals spike in price.

with gasoline in particular -- a more market-oriented way of thinking is that higher gas prices aren't entirely a bad thing. the higher they get, the more incentive we have to find alternatives.
Higher energy prices are HIS (Obama's) goal. You are too soon to forget some of his campaign promises.

One Promise Obama Kept: High Energy Prices | The Lonely Conservative

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“There is no magic formula to driving gas prices down,” the president also said Wednesday. Maybe so, but Obama has figured out a pretty good formula for driving gas prices up. Immediately after taking office in 2009, his interior secretary, Ken Salazar, canceled 77 previously approved leases for oil and gas development in Utah. In February 2010, the Environmental Protection Agency mandated that consumers buy 36 billion gallons of renewable fuels (like ethanol) by 2020. By July 2010, the White House banned drilling in the Gulf of Mexico in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon disaster. The ban has since been lifted, but only half a dozen permits have been issued despite hundreds of pending applications. Now the Energy Information Administration projects a 13 percent decline in off-shore oil production this year.
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What Obama didn’t say to the man with 10 kids was what he said in a January 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle: Under his administration, “electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” And he said nothing about his energy secretary, Steven Chu, who told the Wall Street Journal that “somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.” At the time, gas was selling there for $10 a gallon. That’s two campaign promises Obama is well on his way to keeping.

FACTS. I know they scare you liberals, but they are there and undeniable.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This.

Also I would like to know what policies he has supported that encourages high gas prices, I must have missed that.

I remember that gas was much higher in 2005 than it is now. I did pay over $5 a gallon at that time (after hurricanes Katrina and Rita) and so where prices are right now are no big deal IMO.

Hopefully it will make people consider their vehicles or to take public transportation or actually to *gasp* walk somewhere sometimes.


Yes, you have missed a lot with the blinders on.
Drilling moratorium in the gulf and not just deep water drilling. All drilling in the gulf.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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Yes, you have missed a lot with the blinders on.
Drilling moratorium in the gulf and not just deep water drilling. All drilling in the gulf.
There IS NO shortage now and prices are what they are. And no matter where they drill, we bid for oil against, China, India, etc. What reason is there to believe drilling anywhere will change that?
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:18 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The goal is to get fuel prices so high, it not just nudges us in the direction this socialist government wishes, It shoves us to that direction, for no other reason, that government manipulation of events to set a trend.

The direction of a nation, that is suppose to be decided by the people of the nation, is being driven by a dictatorial central government, in a direction that will benefit there cronies, not the people.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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Higher energy prices are HIS (Obama's) goal. You are too soon to forget some of his campaign promises.

One Promise Obama Kept: High Energy Prices | The Lonely Conservative




FACTS. I know they scare you liberals, but they are there and undeniable.
those aren't facts. you posted a link to a blog post that makes a claim without a link to the source. furthermore, even in this unsupported claim he says "electricity" prices being affected by cap and trade (which never passed), you're talking about "energy" prices in general, and i'm talking about "gasoline" prices which are rising due to monetary policy.

and who says i'm a liberal, "buzz post" ? i'm just a conservative who isn't completely retarded when it comes to politics.

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Old 04-20-2011, 07:19 AM
 
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Well, seems this administration is getting exactly what they wanted. Higher energy prices under his liberal, anti-business agenda.

See, he seems to think if gas prices are high, people would be more inclined to buy an electric car (hopefully one HE owns - The Volt), or take public transpo, or rally for HSR, or just stop driving and conserving altogether (except he NEEDS consumers to be out there driving and spending).

So this is what his big ideas have wrought, this is what his liberal agenda has produced.

News Photos ? UPI ? Slideshow - UPI.com

http://photos.upi.com/view/f772b5b1f...Washington.jpg

Instead of pushing for domestic sources of oil&gas, obama has crippled the industry with his illegal moratorium, at the same time he funds BILLIONS in drilling projects.....in other countries.

They want to push cars the vast majority of Americans DON'T WANT. They want to push HSR that is cost inefficient and people DON'T USE.

What an unmitigated disaster.
Everything is Obama's fault...no, it isn't. Sorry you don't know what the word "speculator" means...it means the President doesn't control the price of gas...


JUST LIKE BUSH DIDN'T CONTROL THE PRICE OF GAS...neither does Obama....only the most blind/naive think they do or could.



It has been ALL OVER the news(for those who can understand big words)....it is oil speculators driving up the price, there is NO SHORTAGE OF OIL....
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There IS NO shortage now and prices are what they are. And no matter where they drill, we bid for oil against, China, India, etc. What reason is there to believe drilling anywhere will change that?

Increasing the supply, always brings prices down, for everything.

Look at Hurricane Katrina, did it raise oil prices globally? Look at pil pricing when the gulf came back on line. I was paying $1.10 a gallon for diesel, again.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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The goal is to get fuel prices so high, it not just nudges us in the direction this socialist government wishes, It shoves us to that direction, for no other reason, that government manipulation of events to set a trend.

The direction of a nation, that is suppose to be decided by the people of the nation, is being driven by a dictatorial central government, in a direction that will benefit there cronies, not the people.
Funny you speak of someone else having blinders on while in your blind zeal to bash government you so casually ignore the affect of speculators on the market. Free market not so appealing to the right when it affects you?
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