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Proof of point and understanding... Republickcan style.
And that is a very big difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives will act on factual information in a rational manner, while liberals base thier decisions on emotion.
Witness the federal debt-
The conservatives, led by Ryan, understand that the US will reach the point of insolvency and the ability to pay FOR NO SOCIAL PROGRAMS if current spending continues. The rational solution (and the only one)- cut spending for entitlements and the military.
The liberals choose to completely ignore the impending danger for the nation presented by the debt and have chosen to stick thier heads in the sand and refuse to make cuts, noting the impact that such cuts will have on the "poor".
It is a completely irrational and emotional response (as expected of liberals), as the lack of cuts will result in the ultimate demise of the very people the libs suggest they are protecting.
Tell me......................... what happens to all the poor and seniors when THERE IS NO MONEY FOR ANY SOCIAL PROGRAM? Do we resort to Soylent Green? To ignore the problem and allow chaos to unfold is not a "plan" it is childish lunacy.
And that is a very big difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives will act on factual information in a rational manner, while liberals base thier decisions on emotion.
Witness the federal debt-
The conservatives, led by Ryan, understand that the US will reach the point of insolvency and the ability to pay FOR NO SOCIAL PROGRAMS if current spending continues. The rational solution (and the only one)- cut spending for entitlements and the military.
The liberals choose to completely ignore the impending danger for the nation presented by the debt and have chosen to stick thier heads in the sand and refuse to make cuts, noting the impact that such cuts will have on the "poor".
It is a completely irrational and emotional response (as expected of liberals), as the lack of cuts will result in the ultimate demise of the very people the libs suggest they are protecting.
Tell me......................... what happens to all the poor and seniors when THERE IS NO MONEY FOR ANY SOCIAL PROGRAM? Do we resort to Soylent Green? To ignore the problem and allow chaos to unfold is not a "plan" it is childish lunacy.
You have a cartoonish view of the world if you believe that conservatives operate off of fact to a greater degree than liberals do. This forum (and your posting) is living proof that the percentage of ignorant individuals is high regardless of political persuasion. I have almost as much distrust for liberalism as I do for conservatism, but I could easily make as many caricatures of moronic conservative thinking (and do so much more accurately) as you have attempted to do with liberal thinking with regards to the debt. In fact, your entire argument is based on a strawman.
You convince yourself that your opponents are irrational (though some are, many aren't) in order to rest easy in your beliefs, as opposed to the hard task of really understanding the spectrum of political positions and what kind of ideologies they are predicated upon.
If you want to practice "F**K You Let Them Eat Cake Capitalism" where there is gross income inequality in the American economy bear this in mind. The middle class in places like Korea, China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Australia and other parts of the world is expanding.
The basis of economic and poltical stability of ANY COUNTRY IS THE STABILITY AND GROWTH OF ITS MIDDLE CLASS.
The French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Cuban Revolution, and the current unrest in the Middle East ARE ALL BASED ON A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THE POPULATION BEING DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THEIR ECONOMIC CONDITIONS
What separates us from the rest of the world is our constitution.
In America, only individuals place limits on themselves. (except for the government)
It takes an enormous amount of ignorance to make this kind of argument during a period when our nation is facing historically high levels of income inequality, when the wealthiest people in society are steadily increasing their control over our political system, and when the middle class, which alphamale ignorantly claims is huge and is "doing great," is actually shrinking.
High disparities in wealth are ruinous for societies, and yet people want to complain about "robbing Peter to pay Paul", even as Peter is robbing the sh*t out of everyone. This isn't about "small business owners," the group of people trotted out by politicians and know-nothings as the victims of this kind of critique, this is about scions and magnates, just so we're clear. People whose wealth affords them political clout, who have the ability to basically become world citizens.
You're blind if you don't see that we are currently experiencing a period of rapid upward wealth redistribution. Both the Republicans and the Democrats are complicit in this process, but for some reason the right is more resistant to this idea than the left, which is why the Republicans are able to pursue their agenda of corporate cronyism more readily, and in larger proportions. You can reduce the argument as one about "fairness", and spit out mealy-mouthed impersonations of what you think the "left" thinks, or you can discuss things a bit more analytically.
What separates us from the rest of the world is our constitution.
In America, only individuals place limits on themselves. (except for the government)
Case in point, from my earlier post. Is this thinking based on "facts" and "rationality"?
Almost every comment you've made in this thread is based on some platitude or talking point . Do you really believe that only individuals place limits on themselves in America? That's extraordinarily facile. People are born into all kinds of circumstances which they have no control over, and our society is structured in a way which clearly does not give equal opportunity to everyone. The myth of America as a meritocracy was discredited decades ago, yet people still parrot it as if it was gospel.
Case in point, from my earlier post. Is this thinking based on "facts" and "rationality"?
Almost every comment you've made in this thread is based on some platitude or talking point . Do you really believe that only individuals place limits on themselves in America? That's extraordinarily facile. People are born into all kinds of circumstances which they have no control over, and our society is structured in a way which clearly does not give equal opportunity to everyone. The myth of America as a meritocracy was discredited decades ago, yet people still parrot it as if it was gospel.
Let's just say you're right.
Why do so many people escape the bondage of liberal policy?
Why do so many people born into wealth become poor?
Compared with people in other rich countries, Americans tend to accept relatively high levels of income inequality because they believe they may move up over time. The evidence is that America does offer opportunity; but not nearly as much as its citizens believe.
It did not cost you any thing at birth and you can check out any time. Some leaders are not generous to the masses, but that is not life. Some leaders are murderous and cruel. Do you want to say some people are not nice. Yes, I agree. And some are too nice, with my money If you are sick, is that life, no. That is sickness. Some sickness is very unfair. Life is a Gift, like sunlight. Are you on the side of life?
And that is a very big difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives will act on factual information in a rational manner, while liberals base thier decisions on emotion.
Witness the federal debt-
The conservatives, led by Ryan, understand that the US will reach the point of insolvency and the ability to pay FOR NO SOCIAL PROGRAMS if current spending continues. The rational solution (and the only one)- cut spending for entitlements and the military.
The liberals choose to completely ignore the impending danger for the nation presented by the debt and have chosen to stick thier heads in the sand and refuse to make cuts, noting the impact that such cuts will have on the "poor".
It is a completely irrational and emotional response (as expected of liberals), as the lack of cuts will result in the ultimate demise of the very people the libs suggest they are protecting.
Tell me......................... what happens to all the poor and seniors when THERE IS NO MONEY FOR ANY SOCIAL PROGRAM? Do we resort to Soylent Green? To ignore the problem and allow chaos to unfold is not a "plan" it is childish lunacy.
I completely agree. Everything in the liberal world is colored by emotion. No rational thought whatsoever. To quote a famous liberal - "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" This is the classic liberal mentality. Reality be damned!
The scientists were spot on when they said liberalism was a mental disease.
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