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Old 06-01-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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...is harsh. Unforgiving. Relentless.

Examples:

1. Tax cuts/trickle-down coupled with deregulation (let the market decide!) has been exposed as a titanic failure, yet some still cling to the illusion that it might still work. They pray that some miracle will occur that will make the economy behave in accordance with misconceptions.

2. One president started and then horribly mismanaged two middle east wars that persist as unwinnable quagmires to this day. Some will attempt with their last breath to lay the blame on his successor. That's like saying Vietnam was Gerald Ford's war.

3. The Great Bush Recession still hasn't yet been remedied, but it has at least been arrested at the recession stage, kept from plunging over into the abyss of another depression, but it was close. Very close. Yet some still fight with all their energy to reinstate the flawed policies that ran the economy into the ditch.

Partisan mind poisoning is unhealthy.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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...is harsh. Unforgiving. Relentless.

Examples:

1. Tax cuts/trickle-down coupled with deregulation (let the market decide!) has been exposed as a titanic failure, yet some still cling to the illusion that it might still work. They pray that some miracle will occur that will make the economy behave in accordance with misconceptions.

2. One president started and then horribly mismanaged two middle east wars that persist as unwinnable quagmires to this day. Some will attempt with their last breath to lay the blame on his successor. That's like saying Vietnam was Gerald Ford's war.

3. The Great Bush Recession still hasn't yet been remedied, but it has at least been arrested at the recession stage, kept from plunging over into the abyss of another depression, but it was close. Very close. Yet some still fight with all their energy to reinstate the flawed policies that ran the economy into the ditch.

Partisan mind poisoning is unhealthy.

President Bush WON the war in Iraq. How was it "mismanaged"?

The "Great Bush Recession" as you call it ENDED in July 2009. This is ALL BARRY.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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The entire US government and US economy is an illusion based on lies, deceit and corruption. You can wine about regulation, laws, what the President does or doesn't do and how completely flaccid the US government is nowadays but none of that matters. The country is controlled just like much of the world by private bankers who have hijacked our money supply. Most Americans fail to realize this because they have no inkling of not only regular history but monetary history. Hell most Americans can't even manage their own bank account how are you ever to expect them to understand abstract monetary concepts like inflation, the business, cycle, qualitative easing, and private banks creating money out of thin air. This country i.e. we the people need to take back our ability to print and coin ALL OUR MONEY interest free. This is why the debt will never be paid off. We let private banks charge us interest and give them the right to print money out of thin air.
You speak of reality.......well the reality is that American lost the Revolutionary War due to the shackles of banking that has been bankrupting this country for 200+ years and subverting the Constitution and the Republic. The cold hard truth most Americans don't realize or don't want to admit is that our country i.e. what America was supposed to be never really got off the ground and is still a work in progress.......We went from agrarianism to a country controlled, manipulated, and plundered by a blending of corporate and state power almost overnight with the international bankers controlling everything. WallStreet and its financial institutions have bought and paid for US democracy ever since its inception. The business cycles are all planned and orchestrated by men. Very rich and powerful men. That is the reality of America.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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President Bush WON the war in Iraq. How was it "mismanaged"?

The "Great Bush Recession" as you call it ENDED in July 2009. This is ALL BARRY.

Mind poisoning...
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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Mind poisoning...
Can you refute the statement?
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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The entire US government and US economy is an illusion based on lies, deceit and corruption. You can wine about regulation, laws, what the President does or doesn't do and how completely flaccid the US government is nowadays but none of that matters. The country is controlled just like much of the world by private bankers who have hijacked our money supply. Most Americans fail to realize this because they have no inkling of not only regular history but monetary history. Hell most Americans can't even manage their own bank account how are you ever to expect them to understand abstract monetary concepts like inflation, the business, cycle, qualitative easing, and private banks creating money out of thin air. This country i.e. we the people need to take back our ability to print and coin ALL OUR MONEY interest free. This is why the debt will never be paid off. We let private banks charge us interest and give them the right to print money out of thin air.
You speak of reality.......well the reality is that American lost the Revolutionary War due to the shackles of banking that has been bankrupting this country for 200+ years and subverting the Constitution and the Republic. The cold hard truth most Americans don't realize or don't want to admit is that our country i.e. what America was supposed to be never really got off the ground and is still a work in progress.......We went from agrarianism to a country controlled, manipulated, and plundered by a blending of corporate and state power almost overnight with the international bankers controlling everything. WallStreet and its financial institutions have bought and paid for US democracy ever since its inception. The business cycles are all planned and orchestrated by men. Very rich and powerful men. That is the reality of America.

Explain how it would be to the advantage of these rich and powerful men to plunge the economy into a deep recession. Please.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Default Mission Accomplished!

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Can you refute the statement?

See post #1.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Yes, Old Gringo is a fine example of partisan mind poisoning and not living in reality.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:42 AM
 
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Yes, Old Gringo is a fine example of partisan mind poisoning and not living in reality.

You're so cruel. And incisive.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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See post #1.
no.....the post in question came as a refutation to your post. I'd be interested to see if you can actually argue it, or if you just got it off of a Daily Kos post.
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