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A statement that ultimately does not fall in line with actual genetics.
Calvanist (and many others on here) has a belief that humans only come in two sexes - male and female. I assume this belief comes from his religion - stories like Adam and Eve, teachings of proper gender roles, no mention of the intersex in the Bible, etc.
No evidence will sway him from this. Present him with the fact that the intesex exist (and account for 1-2% of all humans), and he'll still deny it. He'll do everything he can to place the intersex into one of the only two molds he believes exits - male or female. Blind faith is blinding.
This isn't a case of someone who is homosexual or transsexual.
This is a case about an individual who was born, and their physical body and genetic body is completely out of sorts. A birth defect. They have chosen to live their life as a woman.
I feel sorry for her. The judge made his own decision based on bias.
I feel sorry for her. The judge made his own decision based on bias.
While I don't necessarily disagree with this, I think the judge was in a tough position. Texas Law (specifically its constitution) reads:
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(a) Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.
(b) This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage.
The intersex are neither male or female. It seems to me the Texas constitution bans the intersex for getting married (or civil unions or domestic partnerships, etc) at all.
No, not always. While nearly all people with XY sex chromosomes are male and nearly all people with XX sex chromosomes are female, it's not always true. There are XX males and XY females:
Interesting reading. Thanks.
I think my solution is the best: an individual should be able to designate anyone as a beneficiary. As far as society goes, the person will always be treated as whatever they look like. No one is going to care about genetic tests for casual interaction. Let the person pick male or female when they turn 18.
Interesting reading. Thanks.
I think my solution is the best: an individual should be able to designate anyone as a beneficiary. As far as society goes, the person will always be treated as whatever they look like. No one is going to care about genetic tests for casual interaction. Let the person pick male or female when they turn 18.
Many intersex people (actually most) don't identify as male or female. Sometimes they put a % on it - my friend considers herself 70% female, 30% male for instance. Frankly the law should acknowledge that gender isn't black or white and should allow intersex status to be listed on birth certificates.
This isn't a case of someone who is homosexual or transsexual.
This is a case about an individual who was born, and their physical body and genetic body is completely out of sorts. A birth defect. They have chosen to live their life as a woman.
I feel sorry for her. The judge made his own decision based on bias.
The judge made his decision based on DNA testing and the laws of Texas.
While I don't necessarily disagree with this, I think the judge was in a tough position. Texas Law (specifically its constitution) reads:
The intersex are neither male or female. It seems to me the Texas constitution bans the intersex for getting married (or civil unions or domestic partnerships, etc) at all.
Is there any state that recognizes a third category ?
Is there any state that recognizes a third category ?
Not that I'm aware of (well, there are some states that in marriage law don't consider sex at all: Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont). That's partly why I started this thread - to have a discussion about whether the law as currently constructed addresses the issues of the intersex, and if not (which I think it clearly doesn't), should it be changed to do so.
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