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Old 08-23-2012, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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After the hardships we have endured these past 4 years... i almost don't even care who is running against Obama. Short of supporting a convicted felon or Big Bird, does it even matter to you who is running against Obama? If some guy Joe Smith who i never heard of was running for the Republicans, i'd take a chance on him at this point. And believe me, i'm not the GOP's best friend. Far from it. But after living through this economy, i'm voting for whoever is not named Obama. Agree/disagree?
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm not voting.

Even Republican candidates are too liberal for me.

I doubt I will ever vote again.


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Old 08-23-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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I'll never vote for Obama; but, I won't vote for just anyone either. A record of upholding and defending the US Constitution is #1 in my book.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:52 PM
 
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I'd vote for your left shoe if it was running against Obama!
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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I think Obama does not care for America and its advancement. Plus he has repeatedly thumbed his nose at the laws he is paid to support.

His ideas are vague - Change - change to what? I guess what are seeing that now.

What is it this time? Forward. Forward in what direction? What is forward to him? Is forward to him backward for America? Probably. It has been so far.

Numerous other issues for me.

No thanks.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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I will GLADLY vote for President Obama!

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He Returned The Executive Branch To Fiscal Responsibility After the Bush Debacle

1. Within his first week, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse. **Executive Order -- Economy in Government Contracting | The White House

2. Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to save the federal government money. **Obama Names Chief Performance Officer : NPR

3. On his first full day, he froze White House salaries.* http://on.msnbc.com/ewJUIx

4. He appointed the first Federal Chief Information Officer*to oversee federal IT spending. Chief Information Officers Council

5. He committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems. To that end, he also signed the Democratic-sponsored Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act, which attempted*to put a stop to waste, fraud and abuse in the defense procurement and contracting system.* Gates announces major Pentagon priority shifts - CNN.com http://bit.ly/fz8GAd

6. Through an executive order, he created the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. *President orders debt panel, names chairmen - Feb. 18, 2010

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He Improved the Economy, Preventing a Bush Depression

7. Pushed through and signed the Democratic-sponsored American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as “the stimulus package.†The bill passed, even though only three Republicans voted for it. In a major departure from the previous administration, he launched recovery.gov, a website that allows taxpayers to track spending from the Act. **The Recovery Act Recovery.gov - Tracking the Money

8. The Bush-led Great Recession was costing the economy nearly 800,000 jobs per month by the time President Obama took office. But by the end of his first year, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economyby *3.5%. *UPDATE 2-US stimulus added up to 2.1 mln jobs in Q4 2009-CBO | Reuters

9. Not only did he completed the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan, he also leaned on the banks and others, and recovered virtually all of the bail-out money.*U.S. Bank Rescue Program Gets Overhaul TARP Might Make Money - 24/7 Wall St.

10. He created the Making Home Affordable*home refinancing plan.* Making Home Affordable

11. Oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years.*It’s Official: More Private Sector Jobs Created In 2010 Than During Entire Bush Years | NEWS JUNKIE POST

12. Along with Democrats, and almost no Republicans, implemented an auto industry rescue plan, and saved as many as 1 million jobs. *Obama unveils plan to help U.S. auto industry_English_Xinhua Many are of the opinion that he saved the entire auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest.**http://bit.ly/gj7mt5*This resulted in GM returning to its place as the top car company in the world. *http://lat.ms/zIJuQx*Willard Romney, on the other hand, advocated for the entire industry to go belly-up.*http://nyti.ms/k0zp*

13. Doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership, which is designed to improve manufacturing efficiency. *PolitiFact | The Obameter: Double funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership, a program that encourages manufacturing efficiency

14. Signed the Democratic-sponsored Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act*giving the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the financial system, and create a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown. *Obama Signs Housing and Fraud Bill, Praises Congress for “Most Productive” Period - ABC News

15. Signed the Democratic-sponsored Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, which was designed to to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive credit card practices.* Fact Sheet: Reforms to Protect American Credit Card Holders | The White House

16. Increased infrastructure spending after years of neglect. Poll: Americans Strongly Back Increase in Infrastructure Spending - US News and World Report

17. Signed the Democratic-sponsored and passed Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures. The bill also provided $2.2 billion to help combat homelessness, and to stabilize the housing market.* President Obama Signs 'Helping Families Save Their Homes' Act | Zillow Blog

18. Through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first-time home buyers, which helped the U.S. housing market recovery. **http://bit.ly/dZgXXw** The Federal Home Buyer Tax Credit Program (Military Edition)

19. Initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses.*
Remarks by the President to small business owners community lenders and members of Congress | The White House

20. Created business.gov, which allows for online collaboration between small businesses and experts re managing a business. (The program has since merged with SBA.gov.)** Business.gov has moved | Business.USA.gov

21. Played a lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis.** http://nyti.ms/gHlgp5*

22. Took steps to improve minority access to capital. PolitiFact | The Obameter: Increase minority access to capital

23. Signed an Executive Order instructing federal agencies to review all federal regulations and remove any unnecessary and/or burdensome regulations from the books. *Executive Order -- Identifying and Reducing Regulatory Burdens | The White House

24.*Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have otherwise been lost. **Archived: Recovery Act Recipients Report Funding Continues to Support over 300,000 Education Jobs

25. Dismantled the Minerals Management Service, thereby cutting ties between energy companies and the government.*http://nyti.ms/bw1MLu

26. Along with Congressional Democrats, provided funding to states and the Department of Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being cut during the recession.* PolitiFact | The Obameter: Increase funding for local emergency planning

27. Used recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan. **http://on.msnbc.com/i1i8eV

28. Crafted an Executive order establishing the President’s Advisory Council on Financial Capability to assist in financial education for all Americans.*Executive Order 13530 - Wikisource, the free online library

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He Fostered Greater Transparency and Better Government, After the Excesses of the Bush Years

29. Signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists to anyone in the Executive Branch. *PolitiFact | The Obameter: Ban lobbyist gifts to executive employees

30. Signed an order banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous years, and put strict limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House. **Obama Outlines Lobbying Restrictions - NYTimes.com

31. Held the first-ever first online town hall from the White House, and took questions from the public. *AFP: Obama holds first White House 'online town hall'

32. Became the first to stream every White House event, live. *The White House

33. Established a central portal for Americans to find service opportunities. **Welcome to Serve.gov

34. Provided the first voluntary disclosure of the White House Visitors Log in history. *Visitor Access Records | The White House

35. Issued an Executive Order on Presidential Records, which restored the 30-day time frame for former presidents to review records, and eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews. Provides the public with greater access to historic* White House documents, and severely curtails the ability to use executive privilege to shield them. *Executive Order 13489 -- Presidential Records | The White House

36. Improved aspects of the Freedom of Information Act, and issued new guidelines to make FOIA more open and transparent when processing FOIA requests. *Freedom of Information Act | The White House

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Wall Street Reforms and Consumer Protection

37. Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money.* Pay Czar Cuts Salaries For 65 Bailout Executives

38. Along with Congressional Democrats, pushed through and got passed Dodd-Frank, one of the largest and most comprehensive Wall Street reforms since the Great Depression.* Senate passes massive Wall Street regulation bill - Salon.com American Rhetoric: Barack Obama - Speech on Signing the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act

39. Through Dodd-Frank legislation, created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau *Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

40. Through Dodd-Frank, the Executive Branch fashioned rules that reduce the influence of speculators in the oil market. *Dodd-Frank Does Regulate Oil Speculation -- But The Financial Industry Is Suing To Block It | Research | Media Matters for America

41. Fashioned rules so that banks can no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers' interests. *Wall Street Reform: A Summary of What's In the Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

42. Supported the concept of allowing stockholders to vote on executive compensation. *Wall Street Reform: A Summary of What's In the Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

43. Endorsed and supported the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009*that would close offshore tax avoidance loopholes. **President Obama Statement on Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009 « Task Force on Financial Integrity and Economic Development Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009 « Task Force on Financial Integrity and Economic Development

44. Negotiated a deal with Swiss banks that now permits the US government to gain access to the records of criminals and* tax evaders.* Swiss, U.S. Reach Agreement in UBS Tax Evasion Dispute

45. Signed the American Jobs and Closing Tax Loopholes Act, which closed many of the loopholes that allowed companies to send jobs overseas, and avoid paying US taxes by moving money offshore. *http://1.usa.gov/bd1RTq

46. Established a Consumer Protection Financial Bureau designed to protect consumers from financial sector excesses. *Wall Street Reform: A Summary of What's In the Bill - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

47. Oversaw and then signed a Democratic bill constituting the most sweeping food safety legislation since the Great Depression. *President Obama signs into law sweeping food safety bill expanding FDA’s powers | The Daily Caller

48. Through the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act, extended the False Claims Act to combat fraud by companies and individuals usingmoney from the TARP and Stimulus programs. *Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act Expands the False Claims Act Newsletter Article



He Ushered Through Many Changes That Enhanced Civil Rights and Anti-Discrimination

49. Along with Congressional Democrats, advocated for and signed the*Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which made it a federal crime to assault anyone based on his or her sexual orientation or gender identity.* Obama signs hate crimes bill into law - CNN.com

50. Pushed through, signed and demanded the Pentagon enact a repeal of the discriminatory “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell†policy that forced soldiers to lie in order to be eligible to fight for their country, and put our troops at risk by disqualifying many qualified soldiers from helping.* http://bit.ly/fdahuH**http://bit.ly/mZV4Pz

51. Extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. *Presidential Memorandum-Extension of Benefits to Same-Sex Domestic Partners of Federal Employees | The White House

52. Appointed more openly gay officials than anyone in history. *Obama has appointed most U.S. gay officials - Washington Times

53. Appointed first openly transgender Cabinet Official in History. *Transgender woman appointed to Commerce Department – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs *

54. Changed HUD rules to prohibit gender and sexual orientation-based discrimination in housing **bit.ly/9RxEnP *

55. Changed his mind and publicly expressed support for the right to enter into a same-sex marriage. *Obama announces he supports same-sex marriage - CNN

56. Issued a Presidential Memorandum reaffirming the rights of gay couples to make medical decisions for each other.*Presidential Memorandum - Hospital Visitation | The White House

57. Wrote and signed an Executive Order establishing a White House Council on Women and Girls to ensure that all Cabinet and Cabinet-level agencies evaluate the effect of their policies and programs on women and families. * **Obama's Council on Women and Girls - NYTimes.com *http://1.usa.gov/rFfqMM

58. Signed the Democratic-sponsored Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which restored basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers. This was after the GOP blocked the bill in 2007. Only 5 Republican Senators voted for the bill. **President Obama Signs the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act - YouTube

59. Expanded funding for the Violence Against Women Act.*2010 Budget and Performance Summary - Office on Violence Against Women (OVW)

60. Under his guidance, National Labor Relations Board issued final rules that require all employers to prominently post employees' rights where all employees or prospective employees can see it, including websites and intranets, beginning November 2011. *Board issues Final Rule to require posting of NLRA rights | NLRB

61. Advocated that United Nations adopt a policy supporting gay rights worldwide. *Obama and gay rights: U.S. urges United Nations Human Rights Council to support gay rights - Los Angeles Times

62. Issued an order requiring hospitals to allow visitation by same-sex couples. * reut.rs/llNJek*

63. Appointed Kareem Dale as the first*ever Special Assistant to the President for Disability Policy. *Vice President Joe Biden Announces Kareem Dale As Special Assistant to the President for Disability Policy | The White House

64. Helped Democrats in Congress pass and signed the Civil Rights History Act.*http://bit.ly/th0JC8

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He Made Major Improvements in Foreign Relations and American Status Around the World

65. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any previous president during his first six months in office. **PolitiFact | Chain e-mail claims Obama has visited more countries in first six months of presidency than predecessors

66. As he promised,*he gave a speech at a major Islamic forum in Cairo early in his administration.*http://nyti.ms/dKvY4g**

67. Helped to restore America's reputation around the world as a global leader that does the "right thing" in world affairs, at least according to the rest of the world. **Highlights from 2009 Pulse of Europe Survey | Pew Global Attitudes Project 2010 Pew Global Attitudes Press Conference Video | Pew Global Attitudes Project

68. Re-established and reinforced our partnership with NATO and other allies on strategic international issues.* Afghanistan and NATO | The White House

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What has Obama Done? Here Are 194 Accomplishments! With Citations! (The PCTC Blog )

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Old 08-23-2012, 10:46 PM
 
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I guess two can play the game.

  1. The man started his presidency off with a bang by botching his oath of office.
  2. For good measure, he set the tone for his administration for allowing Chief Justice John Roberts to take the blame for the error.
  3. Obama promises on the campaign trail to immediately shut down Guantanamo Bay. The detention facility is open three years later and counting.
  4. In the same breath, he promises to restore habeas corpus. Three years into his term, he signs the National Defense Authorization Act, which leaves open the possibility of indefinite detention of American citizens.
  5. President Obama ordered the assassination of an American citizen.
  6. As Senator, Obama spoke out against but voted for the Patriot Act.
  7. As President, he extended it, with an auto-pen, while he was in France.
  8. Obama continues the “Bush practice” of extraordinary rendition.
  9. As a candidate, Obama promises to end the War in Iraq and bring all troops home within 16 months. He even says in 2007 that it would be the first thing he would do in office, and that “you can take that to the bank.” As president, he announces all troops would be withdrawn by the end of 2011 (34 months later).
  10. Obama states the Afghan War would conclude in June 2011, but projections now have us running into 2014.
  11. As Senator, Obama opposes the surge in Iraq. He claims that increasing troop levels by 20,000 would actually increase sectarian violence.
  12. When pulling troops out of Iraq, Obama tries to claim success for ending the war, without giving credit to Bush or the troops for any “victory.” The Bush surge was what turned the tide in the war.
  13. Sectarian violence is up sharply since Obama pulled troops out of Iraq in December 2011.
  14. President Obama refuses to say “victory” is necessarily the goal in Afghanistan. Obama reasons the U.S. should not project the image of Emperor Hirohito being forced to sign a treaty of surrender before Macarthur to end the war against Japan.
  15. Emperor Hirohito did not sign the treaty of surrender ending the war against Japan. It was his foreign minister Shigemitsu.
  16. Obama plans to ease travel restrictions to communist Cuba in 2009. And in 2011.
  17. The president pledges a “new beginning” with the Cuban dictatorial regime.
  18. A glance at a Cuban-U.S. relations timeline running to December 2011 shows nothing changed.
  19. President Obama greets Venezuela’s socialist dictator Hugo Chavez warmly at the Summit of the Americas.
  20. Earlier that month, Chavez calls Obama an “ignoramus.”
  21. At the same summit, President Obama sits patiently through a 50 minute diatribe against the United States delivered by socialist strongman Daniel Ortega, only scribbling notes instead of walking out with his diplomatic team.
  22. President Obama meets a grinning Daniel Ortega at the same summit.
  23. When asked later by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper what he thought of the anti-American tirade, President Obama replies, “It was 50 minutes long. That’s what I thought.”
  24. The attempted subversion of the rule of law in Honduras by the socialist president Zelaya, which would have unconstitutionally put him on the ballot for a third term, prompts his judicial removal from office. Obama condemns the supposed “coup” as “not legal.”
  25. President Obama directs his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to cut off $30 million in aid to Honduras.
  26. Election fraud propelling anti-Israel Iranian president and saber-rattling madman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad back to power leads to a mass civil uprising. Despite reports of widespread and cruel bloodshed repressing the protests, President Obama says nothing for ten days.
  27. President Obama refuses to “intervene” in pro-democratic Iranian protests.
  28. Obama’s first call as president is made to the Palestinian Authority’s Fatah leader President Mahmoud Abbas.
  29. Obama’s first formal interview is conducted with Al-Arabiya television.
  30. One of President Obama’s first executive orders is to greatly restrict the influence of lobbyists in his administration.
  31. Years later, it is well-known that the Obama administration routinely meets with lobbyists off White House grounds, where Secret Service logs are not kept.
  32. In 2012, Obama promotes a recent lobbyist with Mexican illegal immigration advocate La Raza from a position as director of intergovernmental affairs to director of the Domestic Policy Council.
  33. The second executive order Obama gives is one reversing Bush era rules safeguarding prior administration’s records. It narrows “executive privilege.”
  34. Obama invokes executive privilege within the first year over the gatecrasher fiasco.
  35. In late 2011, the Obama administration refuses to turn over all communiques relating to the politically seedy financing of bankrupt solar panel company Solyndra.
  36. Another early executive order froze pay for White House staffers making over $100,000. A year later 74% of staffers got a pay raise, many of them to well over a $100,000. (Freezing pay does not apply to promotions or position changes.) The average boost was 9%, three times private sector average.
  37. The next year, 54% got a raise. The average increase was 8%, and of those who got raises, it was nearly 16%.
  38. Barack Obama was declared by presidential historian Michael Beschloss as “probably the smartest guy ever to become president.” Beschloss gushed that Obama’s IQ was “off the charts,” but when pressed by radio host Don Imus, he could not say what Obama’s IQ was.
  39. Despite being heralded as a brilliant thinker, Obama still to this day refuses to release his college records.
  40. Barack Obama received a degree from prestigious Columbia University, where hardly anybody recalls him attending there.
  41. As editor of the Harvard Law Review, Barack Obama anonymously wrote one article – championing abortion.
  42. The one quote provided from the article cited by Politico contains a grammatical error – “in to” instead of “into.”
  43. A letter to a Harvard newspaper written by Obama shows rampant grammatical errors, including a demonstrable lack of subject-predicate agreement.
  44. In Dreams from My Father, Obama makes known that he “chose his friends carefully” and deliberately sought out “Marxist Professors,” “structural feminists,” and discussed with his friends the socialist, anti-colonialist revolutionary Franz Fanon.
  45. Before becoming president, Barack Obama authored not just one, but two biographies, making him millions of dollars.
  46. In his book The Audacity of Hope, Obama was cited as saying The Constitution is a “living document,” that can be interpreted “in the context of an ever-changing world” (i.e. however he wants).
  47. Before becoming an author, the president admitted he wrote some “very bad poetry.” This is true. Just one sample shows the same tendency to split a conjoined word: it’s not “under water,” it’s “underwater.”
  48. Literary analysis performed by an expert at detecting forgery and fraud points to the strong possibility that Obama’s biographies were written by ghostwriters.
  49. Additional evidence shows that the ghost writer for Dreams from My Father may very well have been unrepentant socialist terrorist and then-contemporary English professor William Ayers of the Weather Underground.
  50. When Barack Obama was young, he was mentored by Moscow-connected Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis. Identified as only “Frank” in his biography Dreams from my Father, it was claimed that “Frank” was a poet on par with contemporary communist poet Langston Hughes. It was later discovered that this had to be Davis, a poet who had indeed joined the Communist Party USA. Obama later confirmed the relationship with Davis while attempting to distance himself from him.
  51. In late 2008, Obama’s spokesman Robert Gibbs denied to Chris Matthews that William Ayers held a fundraiser for Barack Obama. Later on, William Ayers was caught on tape admitting that he held a fundraiser for Obama in which the future president was in attendance.
  52. As ABC News reported in March 2008, Obama’s pastor of 20 years, baptizer of his children, and “close confidante” Reverend Wright was confirmed on numerous occasions as incorporating heated anti-American rhetoric into his sermons, such as “goddamn America,” and claiming 9/11 was deserved as “America’s chickens coming home to roost.”
  53. As Politico and ABC News reported, criminal Tony Rezko, who was convicted of corruption, gave President Obama a sweetheart deal on real estate property and donated $120,000 to Obama’s Senate campaign.
  54. Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel was reported by Think Progress as probably having been the whistleblower who outed impeached and convicted former governor Rod Blagojevich in the pay-to-play scandal. Such an action suggests that Emanuel may have been seeking to distance Obama from Blagojevich. Recordings of Blagojevich repeatedly mentioning Emanuel along with potential candidate and Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett, and testimony that Emanuel relayed a message to the governor that Obama would “value and appreciate” consideration of Jarrett, provide strong appearance of ethical misconduct.
  55. Multiple sources provide documented, archived evidence that Barack Obama was a member of the Democratic Socialists of America-connected “New Party” in Illinois.
  56. Verifiable communist Alice Palmer, who worked for well-known Soviet front group U.S. Peace Council, hand picked Obama to be her successor as state senator. Described by the LA Times as Obama’s “mentor,” she later endorsed fellow Alinskyite Hillary Clinton.
  57. As state senator, President Obama voted “present” nearly 130 times.
  58. Obama was given 100% “pro-choice” rating by abortion advocates NARAL. As state senator, Obama voted against banning partial birth abortion.
  59. In 2007, Senator Obama was rated as the most liberal senator, according to his voting record.
  60. Obama had been given glowing endorsement by the Communist Party USA.
  61. In early 2009, President Obama says the following, “I don’t like the idea of spending more government money, nor am I interested in expanding government’s role.”
  62. Time magazine reports that Obama’s $787 billion “stimulus” plan, which no GOP in the House voted for, fails by its own measures. Unemployment still above 8%, economy continues to bleed jobs.
  63. Candidate Barack Obama publicly promises to go “line by line” through legislation to remove wasteful earmarks.
  64. Obama stimulus gave $200,000 to teach Siberian lawmakers how to engage Russian policy makers in Moscow.
Many more here... 1001 Reasons to Vote Against Barack Obama:
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:59 PM
 
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Post #7 pretty much says it all. I would vote for an ant before I would ever pull the lever for Odumbo.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:17 PM
 
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I'd vote for Obama.....





If he was running against Pelosi.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:29 AM
 
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I would vote for anyone not named Obama. I would also vote for anyone not named Biden.
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