Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
3,849 posts, read 3,753,125 times
Reputation: 1706

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist View Post
How is the "no one is harmed" a viable argument for right/wrong?
Okay, you know I normally let others argue with you. But I just have to ask this: What, exactly, is your definition of right and wrong? And where does it come from?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
8,182 posts, read 9,214,487 times
Reputation: 3632
Quote:
Originally Posted by clb10 View Post
...and those neanderthals who think it is sick will be castigated and laughed at for being so backwards.

The views on morality will "evolve" and "progress" to the point where it will be wrong to deny the love of two people, one of whom will be a child.

Conservatives will be seen as bigots who would deny men, women and children the right to express their love.

There will be nationwide celebrations as each state makes adult-child marriage legal. And the people who are deeply offended by what they call a gross and inappropriate act will be shunned by a "progressive, modern society" that will be touted in the mass media.

Mark my words.
The crazy lengths people go to try and stop consenting adults. It is funny seeing the desperation coming from the gay haters, they just can't stand it so they are trying to say anything to stop it.

As no one has ever answered, How will two gay guys marrying each other harm you, your family and your marriage? Not generalities like "fabric of society", etc but YOU specifically, walk me through the harm?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:37 AM
 
6,484 posts, read 6,617,921 times
Reputation: 1275
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMcQ LV View Post
Okay, you know I normally let others argue with you. But I just have to ask this: What, exactly, is your definition of right and wrong? And where does it come from?
My definition of right/wrong comes from God. Do you have one? If so, where does it come from? If it's not God, how is your source superior?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
3,849 posts, read 3,753,125 times
Reputation: 1706
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMe View Post
Actually the next battleground will be the churches that refuse to knuckle under and perform same-sex marriages. Their tax-exempt status will be threatened in an attempt to coerce them to surrender to the gay agenda.
I don't think so. If that were gonna happen, it would have happened with the Catholic Church refusing to marry anyone not a member of their church or members of the church who for whatever reason the church disapproved of the coupling. It would have happened with the first church that refused to marry an interracial couple after the loving v virginia decision 40+ years ago.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
20,892 posts, read 16,080,363 times
Reputation: 3954
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist View Post
My definition of right/wrong comes from God.
So did Muhammad's. He married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist
Do you have one?
Yes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist
If so, where does it come from?
Empathy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist
If it's not God, how is your source superior?
Empathy actually exists.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:48 AM
 
6,484 posts, read 6,617,921 times
Reputation: 1275
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMe View Post
Actually the next battleground will be the churches that refuse to knuckle under and perform same-sex marriages. Their tax-exempt status will be threatened in an attempt to coerce them to surrender to the gay agenda.
I don't put it past the gay activists to specifically target churches in that manner.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:49 AM
 
6,484 posts, read 6,617,921 times
Reputation: 1275
Quote:
Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
So did Muhammad's. He married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9.

No...his came from himself. That's why he was a pedophile.
Quote:
Yes.


Empathy.


Empathy actually exists.
Empathy is subjective. That's why muhammed married a child. Because of a subjective morality.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:51 AM
 
14,917 posts, read 13,103,566 times
Reputation: 4828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist View Post
I don't put it past the gay activists to specifically target churches in that manner.
They don't want to, they never have, they never will, and they couldn't effectively do it even if they wanted to (we have a Constitution with a 1st Amendment).

Churches can, and have always been able to, define a church or religious marriage however they want.

A church can and always will be able to only recognize marriage as between one man and one women. A church can and always will be able to only recognize same sex marriages if it wants. A church could marry every single member to every other member in a giant web of polygamy if it wanted to. A church could marry a chicken to a desk to Bill the postman if it wanted to ordain that strange threesome.

Any government attempt to regulate religious marriages within churches would be a violation of the 1st Amendment of our Constitution.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:52 AM
 
1,677 posts, read 1,668,679 times
Reputation: 1024
Quote:
Originally Posted by clb10 View Post
...and those neanderthals who think it is sick will be castigated and laughed at for being so backwards.

The views on morality will "evolve" and "progress" to the point where it will be wrong to deny the love of two people, one of whom will be a child.

Conservatives will be seen as bigots who would deny men, women and children the right to express their love.

There will be nationwide celebrations as each state makes adult-child marriage legal. And the people who are deeply offended by what they call a gross and inappropriate act will be shunned by a "progressive, modern society" that will be touted in the mass media.

Mark my words.
I agree that in some ways we are regressing.

You think it will take as long as 40 years to reverse our social conditioning?

Here's an example of society's new role models
51 year old actor marries 16 year old singer

Worse, the scuttlebutt working it's way into today's teen mindset is that some [unnamed] scientists found that the best age to have a child is 15.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-27-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
20,892 posts, read 16,080,363 times
Reputation: 3954
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist View Post
No...his came from himself.
Over a billion people on the planet disagree with you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist
Empathy is subjective.
Of course it is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvinist
That's why muhammed married a child. Because of a subjective morality.
All morality is subjective.

Even yours.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:41 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top