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Old 06-20-2011, 12:16 PM
 
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I don't mean in public areas, but with homes.

There are people in middle-class neighborhoods that are messier than their neighbors, and people in lower-income areas that keep spotless homes, but going thru a low-income area it seems a much higher percentage of homes will have things like empty cans in the yard, random trash on the porch, unkept yard or weeds, etc.

Why is this? Cleaning up doesn't cost anything.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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I don't mean in public areas, but with homes.

There are people in middle-class neighborhoods that are messier than their neighbors, and people in lower-income areas that keep spotless homes, but going thru a low-income area it seems a much higher percentage of homes will have things like empty cans in the yard, random trash on the porch, unkept yard or weeds, etc.

Why is this? Cleaning up doesn't cost anything.

Most are Section 8 renters and believe it is someone else's responsibilty to clean up their mess. These same people will call the govt to have someone come change a light bulb so as to not pay for one out of their own pocket.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:39 PM
 
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I don't mean in public areas, but with homes.

There are people in middle-class neighborhoods that are messier than their neighbors, and people in lower-income areas that keep spotless homes, but going thru a low-income area it seems a much higher percentage of homes will have things like empty cans in the yard, random trash on the porch, unkept yard or weeds, etc.

Why is this? Cleaning up doesn't cost anything.
I used to think it was because, frequently, lower income people were having to work two and three jobs just to stay afloat. Being that busy leaves little time to make a house neat and pretty.

Now, in this economy when people are lucky to have even a part time job, I tend to think it's largely a matter of depression. It is almost as if,when faced with an economic outlook that is so bleak, folks just don't see any point in doing anything.

I'm no expert, I'm just speculating based on my own observations....
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:47 PM
 
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No HOAs.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:56 PM
 
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The worst (at least around here) is the Indian Res.

There are houses there that have chain link fences in front yard where almost every inch has papers/cans/debris caught up against the inside and outside of it, and yards just strewn with trash. But there are idle people sitting on porch looking out upon their kingdom of filth.

It would drive me nuts.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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They're renters, and the property owners don't maintain their property. Section 8 renters generally don't have the option of moving to a better-maintained property with their housing voucher, and hence the landowner has no incentive to maintain the property. He or she gets paid regardless of what the tenants complain about.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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I've rented before and it never came with an expectation that the landowner pick up cans, bottles, and papers from my front yard.

I'm not talking about a broken porch step, I'm talking about garbage.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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They're renters, and the property owners don't maintain their property. Section 8 renters generally don't have the option of moving to a better-maintained property with their housing voucher, and hence the landowner has no incentive to maintain the property. He or she gets paid regardless of what the tenants complain about.

Renters are responsible to cleaning up their own mess and doing GENERAL MAINTENANCE such as replacing filters, bulbs, gutters, lawn work.

A Section 8 house is not a HOTEL with maid service included.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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I've rented before and it never came with an expectation that the landowner pick up cans, bottles, and papers from my front yard.

I'm not talking about a broken porch step, I'm talking about garbage.
Yeah, but if stuff getting thrown in your yard got too bad, you'd probably just move out. Renters don't have any ownership stake, so they'll only do so much to maintain the property.

But there's probably a cultural part of it as well... if your neighbor's house looks junky, you probably don't feel very badly about your house looking junky either. I've noticed that cities tend to concentrate section 8 housing in certain neighborhoods or areas, which exacerbates these sorts of problems.
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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Because poor people are lazy.
Wealthy people are also lazy but they have money to pay landscapers.
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