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Old 07-09-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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Just a few of the 50 million people W helped free while he was president.

"Christian groups had been championing the southern Sudanese since the 19th century. And their efforts paid off in 2000 when George W. Bush was elected president of the United States. He elevated Sudan to near the top of his foreign policy agenda, and in 2005, the American government pushed the southern rebels and the central government — both war weary and locked in a military stalemate — to sign a comprehensive peace agreement that guaranteed the southerners the right to secede.


On Saturday, one man held up a sign that said “Thank You George Bush.”



The American-backed treaty set the stage for a referendum this January in which southerners voted by 98.8 percent for independence.
At 1:20 p.m. on Saturday, the southerners officially proclaimed their freedom.
“Recalling the long and heroic struggle of our people,” began the legislative speaker, James Wani Igga.
A few minutes later, the flag of Sudan was lowered and the new South Sudan flag (actually quite similar, plus a star) was raised. The masses exploded in one loud roar.
“Mabrook Janoob Sudan!” they yelled. “Congratulations South Sudan!”
South Sudan’s president, Salva Kiir, wearing his signature black cowboy hat given to him by Mr. Bush, signed the interim Constitution. Then the speeches began."


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/wo...udan.html?_r=1
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:34 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Just a few of the 50 million people W helped free while he was president.

"Christian groups had been championing the southern Sudanese since the 19th century. And their efforts paid off in 2000 when George W. Bush was elected president of the United States. He elevated Sudan to near the top of his foreign policy agenda, and in 2005, the American government pushed the southern rebels and the central government — both war weary and locked in a military stalemate — to sign a comprehensive peace agreement that guaranteed the southerners the right to secede.


On Saturday, one man held up a sign that said “Thank You George Bush.”



The American-backed treaty set the stage for a referendum this January in which southerners voted by 98.8 percent for independence.
At 1:20 p.m. on Saturday, the southerners officially proclaimed their freedom.
“Recalling the long and heroic struggle of our people,” began the legislative speaker, James Wani Igga.
A few minutes later, the flag of Sudan was lowered and the new South Sudan flag (actually quite similar, plus a star) was raised. The masses exploded in one loud roar.
“Mabrook Janoob Sudan!” they yelled. “Congratulations South Sudan!”
South Sudan’s president, Salva Kiir, wearing his signature black cowboy hat given to him by Mr. Bush, signed the interim Constitution. Then the speeches began."


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/wo...udan.html?_r=1
Sounds like George Bush should have paid more attention to what was going on his own country.
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Just a few of the 50 million people W helped free while he was president.

"Christian groups had been championing the southern Sudanese since the 19th century. And their efforts paid off in 2000 when George W. Bush was elected president of the United States. He elevated Sudan to near the top of his foreign policy agenda, and in 2005, the American government pushed the southern rebels and the central government — both war weary and locked in a military stalemate — to sign a comprehensive peace agreement that guaranteed the southerners the right to secede.


On Saturday, one man held up a sign that said “Thank You George Bush.”



The American-backed treaty set the stage for a referendum this January in which southerners voted by 98.8 percent for independence.
At 1:20 p.m. on Saturday, the southerners officially proclaimed their freedom.
“Recalling the long and heroic struggle of our people,” began the legislative speaker, James Wani Igga.
A few minutes later, the flag of Sudan was lowered and the new South Sudan flag (actually quite similar, plus a star) was raised. The masses exploded in one loud roar.
“Mabrook Janoob Sudan!” they yelled. “Congratulations South Sudan!”
South Sudan’s president, Salva Kiir, wearing his signature black cowboy hat given to him by Mr. Bush, signed the interim Constitution. Then the speeches began."


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/wo...udan.html?_r=1
You best watch out because I think that THEY will come stomping in making their kind of remarks. What I want you to watch out for, however, would be the fact that the New York Times was the bearer of the story and that certainly didn't sound a lot like their people would write.

I see that you got the typical prog reply in post number one.
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Ah, the redistribution of wealth the whiny righties love, that which does nothing to benefit Americans.
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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Just a few of the 50 million people W helped free while he was president.
That and the 'Arab Spring', the flowering of democracy in the region, all fruits of Bush's foreign policy in the area.

Thank you George W. Bush!
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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I've never been critical of Bush's Africa policy, for what it's worth. If only the rest of it were similar.
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:48 PM
 
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Sounds like George Bush should have paid more attention to what was going on his own country.
No kidding. When you hear an American say "thank you Bush", it comes with a heavy dose of sarcasm.

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Old 07-09-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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That and the 'Arab Spring', the flowering of democracy in the region, all fruits of Bush's foreign policy in the area.

Thank you George W. Bush!
So you support the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt?

Yeah George, Thanks a lot for ignoring America while pursuing your useless nation building elsewhere.
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:11 PM
 
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It's South Sudan, get it right, perhaps?

This is a complicated situation, but I'm generally pretty happy that the Southern Sudanese have broken away. Here's some info for discussion.

1. (regular) Sudan is predominantly Arab, and has generally been complicit in the nurturing of Islamic radicalism/terrorism
2. South Sudan is a mix of indigenous religions and Christianity, but is decidedly not Muslim, and has been desperately looking for supporters for over half a century.
3. South Sudan possessed 85% of the oil of Sudan prior to the split.
4. South Sudan, like most African nations, is not ethnically homogeneous, and faces a number of internal and external tensions, particularly from the LRA, a Christian terrorist movement, which has led many to call it a "pre-failed state".

Good luck South Sudan.
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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So you support the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt?

Yeah George, Thanks a lot for ignoring America while pursuing your useless nation building elsewhere.
I support the right of self determination. What such self determination will produce cannot be predicted. In the case of Egypt if it yields a government antagonistic to the US then we deal with that when it presents itself. Additionally if Egypt turns antagonistic towards Israel then I'm 100% in favor of Israel resolving the problem however she deems appropriate, by any means necessary and with any and all material we can provide.
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